look dude. everyone thinks they can easily destroy anything Ash has, but its just... its impossible. Ash and Mega Octagon both come from the shapes universe, and this shapes universe is based on the very essence of physics, gravity, force, and velocity. so Mega Octagon, which is Ghost Ash right now, is one of the most powerful shapes in the shapes universe and once caused havoc across the whole universe before getting killed by Circle. if youre telling me you can eliminate GRAVITY itself in the form of a SHAPE then you're wrong. you simply cant.