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are these the ones about gay people needing to be executed
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No, it's a line that says "a man will not lie with a male as he does a woman"
It's ACTUALLY talking about pedophilia, but some people think it means that man needs to be with woman.
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ok let me read this part rq
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Where did you get executed from lol

Going to hell maybe yea
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The original text actually refers to pedophillia, not homosexuality.
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How so?
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It says that a man shall not lie with a male. In this case, male refers to a boy, someone who hasn't achieved full maturity. There were a lot of things lost, mixed up, and changed during translations, so I can see "male" becoming "man" in a translation, then that turning into "no homosexuality."
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But it doesn't say boy, it says man in multiple verses besides this one.

Also the Bible says the word "man" elsewhere. Like David's "mighty MEN" of Israel. These were his top soilders in his army, and one of them had a wife named Bathsheba
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Like I said, the word "male" could have been very easily misinterpreted as "man" during translations.
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Well the NIV and the KJV both say man, and those are just options.

And the NLT version just says that homosexuality is bad, and then gives a man and a man as an example
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Okay, but what I'm saying is that old jewish texts very likely said "male," to which people thought that they were saying "man," and thought they were saying homosexuality is bad.
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Okay, well I just read the original Greek version (which is the first and original version of the Bible) and it says that a man and man both, if they are to lie together, is an abomination to the Lord.
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The Greeks!?! I highly doubt that's what they said. The Greeks were practically the guys who INVENTED gay.
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Okay well, not all greeks were christians. And yes that's what the Greek version said
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so i just read through it and it all says "thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womenkind"
i dont see how that refers to pedophilia
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The ORIGINAL text says to not lay with male as you would a woman. (A male refers to a young boy who hasn't reached full maturity)
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im literally reading the original king james version right now
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I'm talking about the codex sinaiticus level original. There were a lot of things lost, mixed up, and changed during translations, so I can see "male" becoming "man" in a translation, then that turning into "no homosexuality." You kind of have to reverse engineer these kind of things.
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fair enough
mine just says "mankind" specifically
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The original Greek version says the same thing actually
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idk i heard smth like that a while ago but i didnt fact check
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Well I fact checked it
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ok so i just checked and yeah 18:22 checks out it des say nothing about execution
but levicticus 20:13 does
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Oh yeah W
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I can't tell if that's Jewish law or it means they will go to hell
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well it doesnt specify it as a blasphemic rule, so in the bible its just a sin. All sins are equal before the lord (except the sin of blasphemy, which is unforgivable ) , so gay sex and the little white lie you told your parents when you were ten have the same effect
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Not really, because being gay is a lifestyle of sin. A white lie is a little slip up we all do. Because being gay is a continuous and ongoing rejection of God and the Lord calls it one of the "detestable" sins
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every sin in a lifestyle of sin, the only person who hasnt lead a lifestyle of sin was Jesus Christ, Nearly every sin you make is a conscious descion that builds off the other ones
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That is true. I'm just saying there's a difference in sins, and some being called detestable. That's why there's different levels of hell as well.
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theres not different levels of hell, that was made up in the middle ages
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Well maybe. Idk, but either way any part of hell seems pretty bad
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Where is you get that idea from
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I checked real quick just to fact check myself, the layers of hell i dead didnt start until 1300 AD
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yeah this is what i found
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i mean its old testament
its based of the jewish stuff
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what
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A lot of homophobic christians use this line (in which the heavily misinterpret it) as a reason that "gay is bad"
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oh
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Oof 😅
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