average caver chad; average anti caver virgin; knows that the associated risks are extremely rare and won't happen if you know how caves work; "GOING IN CAVES IS DANGEROUS!!!!!"
Only thinks they are dangerous because they saw a scary tik tok; "caves are the last unexplored places on the planet, full of incredible species. Failing to explore them leaves a hole in humanity"; "CAVES ARE JUST BORING HOLES IN THE GROUND!!!"
literally just claustrophobic