JackNCoke

i would agree with that

Bro dont

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

they also often marry their first cousins modern day

Eugh

That's f**ked up but its only done in underdeveloped countries dont let that represent Islam

happens in the US (not legally, obv)

Yeah its still bad and doesnt represent islam, people of every religion do that too

uh
no they do not

Dumbass I'm not saying every non-muslim there are some non-muslims do that so the same goes for muslims its nothing related to the religion and this is easy to understand idiot stop being brainless

i am referring to the fact that it is an unfortunately common thing within that community and is not frowned upon by the religion in general

Its not common idiot

basic insults and "nuh uh" are invalid arguments

Neither are lies or playing dumb
its not as common as you say there

i never lied. there is no point to this conversation if every point i make you just accuse me of lying

What is with you and being genuinely disrespectful of shit

Not even trolling bud, just straight up disrespect

Yep

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

Well yes that's bad duh

I don't know enough about Islamic stuff to talk so ask someone else

that's me explaining why I cant respect it

I can agree with that at least

Dont

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

"I don't hate Muslims"
2 days ago proves otherwise

Yeah

and what "proves" the supposed hate?

I can't prove it cause you deleted the posts
Coward

those posts didn't say anything about hating Muslims, I said I agree with cinna when she said she didn't like them

You literally said something to the affect of "They suck because some of them tried burning down the local church"
And you kept trying to use isis to justify it
Don't act like you've already forgotten

yes, I said that, and why shouldn't I? Jesus teaches forgiveness, and since no one died and the men were arrested, I dont find that too difficult

but did you mention forgiving them for it
no

did I have to mention it?

well
If you didn't wanna make it seem like you were trying to say you hate Muslims
Then yeah probably

nah

then don't be surprised that it took it the wrong way

I'm not, don't worry

You surely have a twisted misunderstanding in religion bud

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

So?
That was over 1000 years ago
doesn't mean shit nowadays

thats quite literally the founder of the religion
that would be like if Jesus was encouraging doing gorillas and christians were all fine with it

so the god Allah had accepted this and he was still a holy man?

Yes there was no age of consent back then and younger ages were considered mature but she was much older than that

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

Muhammad lived almost 1500 years ago and age of consent wasn't a thing back then, of course people would marry younger girls, it's not a reason to hate Muslims or the religion because why tf would it be?

And you said Muslims have known to have done horrible things. There are around 1.9 billion Muslims on Earth, of course there are gonna be bad ones too, you can't flame us all for that. Even the bad things they do is connected to religion, it's not what the religion teaches. Mind you there are people of other religions being like that too.

so, tell me, did your God Allah support this supposed "holy" man's actions?

Oh f**k off, Allah will deal with you

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

I concur for the most part
I don't know enough about Islam

Muhammad Married A Six Year Old Child. Aisha, daughter of Abu-Bakr was a beautiful little girl. Muhammad married her when he was fifty three years old and she was only six years old.

That's pretty f**ked

Actually 3 years after her marriage she was in Uhud battle and people would have to be 15 or older to join in battles, meaning she was at least 12 when she married Muhammad, (which was at time considered mature) and she was probably older than that too idk where he got 6

That isn't any better???

Oh you didn't read my othrr comment, he lived around 1500 years ago and age of consent wasn't a thing then and younger ages were considered mature, girls married much younger too

It doesn't matter what was accepted "back then". Religion tends to be founded on moral objectivity. And Islam is no exception. I do not give a flying f**k whether people thought it was okay back then, doesn't change whether it is good or bad. The fact of the matter is, it's absolutely disgusting either way. You'd have to agree that it is morally good for somebody that old to marry a twelve year old. A child.

Yeah it's bad and everyone did it but that doesn't represent the religion and who muslims are now, you can't hate us for that

It is in your holy text. It is directly supported. Is suddenly this part of your holy text bad? That undermines the entire thing. You follow a religion that in of itself supports shit that disgusting, whether you believe it's okay or not

Nothing in holy text support pedophilia or child mariage, quran clearly isnt what you think it is. There are, sadly, muslims who spread misinformation about the religion for attention and stuff, and they sometimes spread fast around people who dont know much about the religion, so dont take everything that way

بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ‏.‏ قَالَ هِشَامٌ وَأُنْبِئْتُ أَنَّهَا كَانَتْ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعَ سِنِينَ‏.‏

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Sahih al-Bukhari

So this is not the quran, but also from a similarly authentic source. At least from baseline level of research

I have a shitton of stuff to say about that but you're just gonna hold them against me so f**k the hell off

I mean you're kinda approaching me here so like

.......have some empathy I wish Luigi was still here like go***mn any controversial Islam-related thing you use as an excuse to hate me

I don't hate you, nor am I looking for a reason to

go***mn its not my fault how ages worked back then- everybody on the world, muslim or not, were like that you say it like Islam is a religion that made people Pedophiles

That in of itself would undermine the idea that they are holy texts in the first place right? Is not the entire concept of a god something that is perfect, and detached from human wrongdoings? Should holy texts and history not be seperate from general barbaric human concensus, since it is supposed to be the word of a god, a perfectly good being?

The prophet muhammad above all others should have good, yes? How can you reconcile that with pedophilia which is frankly, quite f**kin bad

(And again, not saying I hate you. Just trying to make a point)

Bro I told you, everyone on Earth, muslim or not, was like that. Pedophilia wasn't considered a thing. You can't just criticize someone for that you idiotic asshat

Did you even read what I said

The fact that however many thousands of years passed does not change whether pedophilia is good or evil

That's the entire point. Whatever humanity as a whole believes should not, in the religion, conform to something perfect and good

Yeah but that many years ago, people's views on it were different.

I am aware
God is not people
This is supposed to be divine word, isn't it?

Have some empathy at least and after that try to argue again

I did
Gave my response, and a question
What does that have to do with empathy

Because what you guys say implies that it generally wasn't ok like today, but Muhammad decided to marry a kid

Guess I was applying parallels between Jesus and muhammad that don't exist.

Used to thinking of the Prophet guy as somebody who is a direct loudspeaker for some sort of god

Anyways after looking the quran specifically doesn't give a specific age you can marry at, it only says something vague about needing to be "mature" which could very easily be misused

Please, imagine people hating on you and your religion just because a bad thing which was common at the religion's times. I know you're atheist but just try to put yourself in my shoes

I understand well how that could make a person who follows said religion feel, ie you, but that's hardly relevant here I feel like. Again, not hating on you. Just asking questions about the religion and trying to make a point

Your point is assf**k. You're associating sth not related to religion with the religion. Its nothing related to religion. Its not related to Islam. How many more times do I have to repeat it?

You haven't really said this at all previously from what I've seen

I'm probably misunderstanding. Like I said, I have little experience with Islam compared to Christianity so I very well may be mixing up some concepts

What specifically have I said that is not related to Islam at all?

Child marriage.
Nothing related to Islam, ıt's bad sure and history changes shit so it was not considered bad back in the day, Muhammad didnt consider it bad cos no one did. It is now considered bad by all including us (expect the underdeveloped countries). But its again not related to the religion yoi can't associate it witj

Why does it matter if it "wasn't considered bad" bad by the general populous

Argumentum ad populum and all