How much did a groomer I only follow to not get permabanned in the LGBTQ stream suffer? | ImgflipPain

Nice

Who did Bethany groom and how? I'm currently uninformed

Told an 11 year old it was fine to think of himself as genderfluid and bisexual

I don't see how that's grooming (except if the 11 year old told that he isn't genderfluid and bisexual repeatedly) but ok

He obviously shouldn’t care about that kind of thing yet, he acts pretty immature
And of the 5 owners in LGBTQ, 4 of them voted to ban him for being underage. She herself said that she didn’t like having to do that. And then somehow he’s now back in MSMG, meaning that she’s gone back on her word

Who was the 11 year old btw

Dead and desperate, he’s still active in the stream I believe

The user also explicitly thanked InvaderBethany for helping him figure out stuff. I couldn’t find any conversation on any of his or her posts, meaning that kind of stuff had to be done in memechat.

Ok ig

Omg, someone talking to another person and helping them figure themselves out! the horror! Must be clearly grooming.

Yeah at the age of ELEVEN.
If it was like 13 or 14 at minimum I probably wouldn’t mind at all.
But that is literally before puberty, before sexual attraction really begins, and also well before most trans/genderfluid people that I know even BEGAN trying to figure out their gender identity.
Based on his posts he also seemed to be very worried about this kind of thing, which is very stupid in my opinion. He shouldn’t have to worry about this kind of thing for at least a few more years, as he’s literally just a kid.

Not taking a side, but I would like to point out that different people start puberty at different ages. It is based on genetics and circumstances. Some people start at 9, some people start at 16.

There was a case where a boy started puberty at 2 years old, and a case where a girl started around 5 years old.

Sexual attraction is subjective, as is gender.

My main case is that it’s way too early from a mental health standpoint. Even if he did start facing attraction and all that at that age, it shouldn’t even matter for a kid, since some kids’ parents are homophobic and that could make them feel a lot of stress.

I do not disagree.

A) At 11 I was having several crises over a crush I had on a boy. Sexual attraction is not all there is. I would have really appreciated someone telling me it's ok
B) Yeah, there are certain people with whom dysphoria starts at puberty, but like it ain't everyone. A lot of people wanted to be girls since they were little and just didn't know that was an actual option or suppress themselves bc "it's a mental illness"
C) Ik he shouldn't have to worry about that, but helping him to not worry isn't telling him "Stfu, you're a child", it's leaving them space to figure themselves out and if they get to a conclusion telling them that's ok

Her being a millennial also implies that she’s AT LEAST 27.

Ehm... yeah, that's... not only ok, it's pretty nice LMAO

Are you fuсking serious?

Yeah. Like getting support is nice, yk?