Not made by me (Ada: we really never were "great" were we)

You call conservative Christians "Nazis" and then you say this shit

bro basically said that the Soviets shouldn't have liberated the Jews in Auschwitz

Not at all. Reread. I said that the end was good, the reasons, not so much.
And also I said that israel being there and making a segregation country to not have to interact w/ jews isn't really good.

yeah you were right im absolutely done especially with the antisemetism happening rn im super f**king done with people like you you suck and i should have realised it earlier and i might just move to tumblr. all i know is that i wont interact with anymore. thanks for being my 'friend' while we still interacted.

Brooo no don't 😭😭😭 I like being your friend, you're really chill. I try not to argue abt this with you bc Ik it hurts you, but I ain't gonna seal my opinions away forever just in case you see them.

how hard is it for people to be normal

frfr

this is obv ragebait hun xx

not at all.

yes it is!! >_<

Not at all

More so they had a f#ck ton of refugees they didn’t know what to do with so they said just send them back to where they came from

There was a proposal to send them to australia, and within the dumbishit idea that was israel, that'd be one of the less stupid applications.

Competition between oppressed groups only helps the oppressors.

Yeah, Ik, but like... genuinely, we don't need a country for jews so we can forget about them and not interact with them, we need an accepting society, not country segregation 💀💀💀

Oh yeah we should take property rights away from one oppressed group and give it to another. See how stupid you look?

Strawmanning:

How? That is what you said, "we don't need a country for the Jews" but we need a country for gay people? Why?

Reread what I said, I said that we don't need a country for jews in the same way we don't need a country for trans people.

Why not? If it's an established place where people of the same religion can interact peacefully, then what's wrong? Or even beliefs, look at religious and ideological compounds, if maintained properly, they can be beneficial to the people in the community. I have nothing against people of any community forming a place where they can reside as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others

me and who should work together?

My fault, I meant, work to get there

Can yall like, take this to dms?

Yeah, not following this people to memechat ^^

What's it to you? Stay in your own lane, it's over anyways

First of all, I'm talking to you, I do not intend on changing anything by talking to you. I'm just debating bc I don't know how to let an argument be and not answer.
And secondly, yeah, the US government should also be changed, like most governments rn.

Yeah, so you let your immaturity drive you into a point where your arguments don't make sense? But yeah, again, what does your blabbering do anything positive?

Ok, that's strawmanning and that ain't emotional. I'm not talking about equal outcomes. The two pillars of my argument are "everyone deserves a bare minimum to subsist and not suffer continuously" and "Everyone deserves equal opportunities" I'm saying that instead of the top 1% owning 50-60% of the money... how about letting them off with 30%, still a huge and ridiculous f**king number, but enough so that the people beneath can live, have some times to themselves bc mental health is also important, and send their kids to study. Like I myself wouldn't know what to do with 10k monthly, I would know way less what to do with 1M monthly, and like, genuinely, don't you see that's a little immature to be like "I wanted to make 10 million but I'm making 9 million to help thousands of poor people to subsist. I'm gonna go cry at a corporate lobby and but the government so it doesn't do anything about me dragon-hoarding my shit"

So you're saying if you made 10 million a month based off of a successful company or something you worked your ass off to get you wouldn't spend it on investments and assets to assist you and your family til the day you die? Your ideas are heavily based off of societal morals instead of individual rights, which really lead to a socialist society where we expect the government to take care of everything and we depend on individuals to provide enough work to support a society with only making enough money to subsist their own life and not explore any fulfilling endeavors? Tell me in what society like this would you have the time or energy to waste your time on a memesite like this arguing with me? But sure, go ahead and tell me I'm arguing a slippery slope, and not point out any other possible outcome because there literally isn't any

I... didn't call you any derogatory term. Like at all.
And yeah, nations are made from oppression. But most modern countries try to reverse their oppression. Israel having the US make the people who were already there either leave or get stuck in slums, and I don't see them trying to reintegrate the people that they've sealed away in slums.

You mean cishet? Not derogatory? But I get in hot water when I refer to someone as transexual. Funny, but also, you expect Israel to reverse all of its "oppression" after only being a country for 70 or so years?

And secondly, now that you've made a point that can actually be attacked, You know that late capitalism is a bitch to live in, right? Like old money people haven't worked a day in their lives, they don't even know how to take a bus or fry a go***mn egg, and inflation goes crazy with how much money devalues with salaries not following that. In the end, the only way to make enough money to live comfortably is either to get really really lucky or to study and get yourself through college, which is difficult if you gotta work to support your family while you're in high school.
And also, college there in the US is expensive AF. Like a state is based on law-enforced empathy. If you're rich enough that you could live for the rest of your life spending 3000 bucks a month with just the money you have at the moment, and there is someone dying in the streets bc there ain't enough money being pumped into homeless shelters, it'd be pretty basic decency to help those in a more precarious situation, and if someone is egotistical enough to do that, to have a bunch of money they will never need stashed somewhere like Smaug, they probably shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Life isn't fair, Deal with it, by Mike Myatt, read it, don't be so negative. That isn't an attack, you are genuinely just complaining

Ehhh... you're getting pretty emotional, so you don't seem in a position to tell me I'm losing.
Well, is there actually any qualitative difference between 10M inverted and 9M inverted? Yeah, the number is bigger, but either way, you won't have to ever worry about anything.
And don't make up some basis for my ideas. "Societal morals" sounds way more dismissible than what it actually is: basic human empathy.
Also, you're strawmanning. I literally said that letting the poor like... live in decent condition is to allow them to actually do shit that's fulfilling to them. And like, how would a change in taxation that wouldn't even affect me change how much time and energy I have. As you would have realized if you were reading me in good faith or had a higher than fifth grade reading comprehension level, still not sure which one it is, the idea isn't to tax everyone, the idea is to take from those who don't need as much as they have and give it to those who do need it, while still leaving the rich person... rich.
Also, like y'all libertarians read robin hood and take the side of the goddam sheriff, genuinely can't make this up 💀💀💀

And how would this world saving idea work? And if it would while still keeping the rich rich, then why isnt it implemented yet? There is a reason Robin hood is fiction.

But I'll continue, since you love to call out logical fallacies, Ad Hominem, why are you insulting my intelligence when your argument isn't fully based on reality?

Your ideas of basic human empathy also comes with another side , natural instincts, trying to ensure your own survival by putting yourself in as high a position as possible, are you to deny one human aspect while revering the other? To do so contradicts all of human development up to date.

You seem to not understand how OCD works. It's physically painful. I feel as if (Out of character) there were maggots writhing in the back of my head. It's an awful feeling. I genuinely'd like to stop, but like it feels awful.

I normally just block people so I don't know if they answered to me or not, but you're being pretty entertaining to talk to.

Doesn't change the fact that life isn't fair to anyone, and people are born into different opportunities, and this is just a universal fact. If you got a problem, take it up with God or whatever universal power you believe in

Damn vro chill I was js askin

Why?

we're moving in circles. As I said, the system is stacked. anyways, I'm too tired 4 this, so imma ignore the maggots and block you so I don't get notifs that will make me feel bad abt not answering, ok? so bbye

Wym with inmaturity and not making sense? My single argument has been "Governments should and could do something about slumification" and I've just repeated over and over as you are apparently unable to attack an argument rather than the stuff that is around it.
And I'm not answering that second question again. Try and reread the first 2 lines of my last answer, please.

No, I said immature because you admitted yourself that you cant stop an argument. But sure, I'll attack your argument again. Governments should have programs in place to support and lift people up from homelessness, but your expectations for a country to spend as much money and time on a population which most of which aren't prepared to be accountable for themselves are as ridiculous as the idea that all rich people who worked for money should be expected give it up to those who don't make good choices in life

Cishet is an abbreviation of "Cisgender and heterosexual", and transexual is different from transgender: transexual is one that has taken mediacl action to transition, transexual are people who are the gender opposite to their sex.
And yeah, the deslumification and the mixing could have been done from minute one, and now you can just... stop genociding? deslumify the slums? reconnect it so it's less isolated? actually inspect the houses to make sure they're safe and don't have underground tunnels? accept one of the thousands (hyperbole, they ain't even 100) of the ceasefires that have been proposed?
Also, the slur from both straight people and bi people is "breeder"

But what are you gonna do? Bring attention to it on a meme site? Shouting into the void about the destabilizing of an established government? Are we to say the same about the American government because impoverished people are not in favorable positions? I tire of you cap anarchists, your ideas never reflect your integration into the society you live in

Not perfect, livable. You have only one life and it should be able to be at least partially spent chilling.

You should work together there

you HAVE to be ragebait bro

Ok, shifting the point, I see, it isn't about "these things are happening", it's about "we should stop these things from happening". Well, if we can agree that his isn't fair but can't agree that it should be made fair, every subsequent argument has to be based in opinion and emotion and that's something I don't deal in, so like... B-bye I guess?

So equal outcome instead of equal opportunities? Makes sense, definitely;)

Yeah, it's natural, you know what else is natural? Nightshade. Measles. Dying to an infection bc of the slightest cut. Like not all natural instincts are good, and it's the state's job to fight the egotistical instinct of wanting to have it all, not just enough.

Because its the states job to automatically make sure everyone's lives is happy and perfect?

Plus those aren't natural instincts, not what I was talking about

I really don't believe in a higher power other than the idea of the deus otiosus, and tbh, he's chilling outside of our reach so like... I can't. And the ocd comment was about my inability to stop answering, not responding to your point.

Then block me if it works for you

It hasn't been applied because the rich don't want to be rich, they want to be as rich as they are right now.
I'm not insulting your intelligence at all, what I'm saying is that you're either acting in bad health or being a dumbass, as you're misinterpreting me big time. And also, fallacy fallacy, just because an argument has a fallacy in it it isn't instantly invalid.
And like, there are good things in instincts and bad things. Disregarding others is asshole behavior. Being empathetic is good bc it makes you try and reduce the suffering in the world.

Not disregarding others, protecting yourself and your tribe, aka family, protecting yourself and your family is a natural instinct to ensure survival of kin and blood. Being a dumbass? Not an insult? Wild.

Ok, first of all, it ain't immaturity, it's ocd, a literal ass

Then stop responding, give up on your repeating argument and don't respond

I'm not saying to kill everyone who lives there or anything. What I mean is that when it was founded at first, it did hurt the people who already lived there. And also, creating a place where people of the same group can be together without nobody else creates an echo chamber and a group feeling that can (and will) dehumanize other people. If you disagree with this, you should leave this stream as you're cishet ^^

I didn't say that either. Literally any nation on this planet was formed by one people oppressing another. Your point is? The echo chamber you speak of is the exact same thing that happens on here, the internet, but you get upset when someone comes to you with a differing opinion, and call me a derogatory term for a straight person? Great, it just shows how accepting and understanding your group is

We need an island for all the intolerant people. Or another planet. Let them fight amongst themselves.

Move all the nazis to venus ^^

Without blimps

Ooh, they'd hate that. 😈 Venus was a girl!

Look up "venus under the clouds"

Like there rains sulphuric acid, the temperature is in the hundreds, the atmosphere is like 80% ammonia. Just realized venus would be cool for a setting in a dark science fiction tale, with richass people living in blimps between the clouds and the ozone layer and the rest having to spend all their lives in hazmat suits.

Why would that even happen? Most likely when colonization happens and tons of people arrive we’ll just intentionally erode the atmosphere into space (or collect it) until it’s way smaller

Yeah, forgor abt robots getting damaged by heat. I'm getting kind of harassed rn, so I ain't thinking at peak capacity, so like...
But still, I find it more logical to blimp and robot with thermal insulators and stuff.

Genuinely, how would that happen? Like first of all, the top layer of venus's atmosphere is the one full of CO2, that's why I specified without blimps, bc plants and blimps and UV filters would be perfect to live there.

Venus has an extremely thick atmosphere to the point where launches from the surface to the habitable atmospheric layer would cost an extremely large amount of Δv. And if you want to actually make it habitable like Earth, the best way is to start by reducing Venus’ atmospheric size. That way the most habitable layer becomes the surface layer, which not only has nothing different to the habitable atmosphere layer you just mentioned, but also allows access to in-situ resource utilization to benefit the overall colony.

But you gotta get the atmosphere real real real far and we can just mine with robots and live in uv filtered blimps.

You don’t have to get the atmosphere real far at all, solar erosion exists

Manual mining would take way too long and also remember that robots literally run on electronics, which is affected by Venus’ sheer heat. The longest that a lander has survived on Venus is something like 127 minutes, I think.

But dude, don't you know how big a planet is? the idea of draining an atmosphere is ridiculous, and you'd have to push it really really really far away so it doesn't fall to venus again

The idea of giving Mars an atmosphere is ridiculous too, but there are several scientific papers realistically detailing how we could cause it to happen possibly only in the matter of decades. So I’m hopeful.

Also, when regarding gases, when they go into space they’ll be affected by the solar wind and solar radiation, basically guaranteeing that they won’t ever see Venus again.

Ik, but if Mars was that deadly some Nazis would still feel better about moving there because the hypermasculine warrior symbolism of it all would prop up their fragile egos.

EW DONT SEND THEM TO ME (btw ik you’re talking abt the planet not me so uh it’s a joke )

If I sent them to you they'd be all tied up and you could do to them as you wished.

For the babylonians venus was Ínana, the goddess of sex, war, beauty and patroness of us [t-slur]

can i be the tied up one 🥺

and i want ppl to do whatever they want to me 🥺

I regret my choice of settings

hey relatable