Socialism

Oh, look! It's my favorite game; "Using Capitalism to Explain Communism"!

By the way, socialism and communism are not the same.
Communism requires one to "seize the means of production."
Socialism is the financial distribution of revenue for the benefit of maintaining and improving infrastructure.

Ah ah ah - is it benefit tho????

Elaborate

I was just pointing out that maintaining and improving infrastructure isn't ok if you steal from other people to do it.

I'm not trying to argue lol, u r completely right. Communism, socialism, fascism, all are different, which people tend to get mixed up a lot. :)

Wait. So you think using government funds (i.e., tax revenue) to build and maintain infrastructure is **theft**?!.
Oh, friend...

So if a robber came into your house and stole half your money, but claimed it was for a 'good cause,' you wouldn't mind and would let him have it?

That's literally not the same. You're comparing bananas to broccoli.

Taxation has been a thing governments relied on to function for over 7,000 years. Taxation and how it's used is written into our constitution. Since the beginning of organized civilization and the founding of the first governing body, taxation has been a duty of citizenship.

If you don't like paying taxes, move to a deserted island.

So, please explain to me: how many people have to agree that it's okay to steal from me before it becomes ethical?

Theft is a crime.
Taxation is law.

I don't think you know how law and order works.

Thieves have relied on stealing to function for at least as long as governments have existed, this has no bearing on whether it's right or wrong..

Much like theft under the guise of taxation, slavery was also legal according to the constitution until the 13th amendment, but that didn't make slavery any less wrong.

But regardless of what the constitution says, no-one alive today consented to it and it's not reasonable to claim that it could possible be binding on any living person.

Actually the U.S. government forcibly taxes you regardless of where on the earth you live. There is literally no deserted island on which you are not subject to U.S. taxes as a natural born citizen. And if you want to abandon your citizenship to escape it, they will tax you on every asset you own for that privilege as well. Irrespective of that, it's victim blaming to say that because you choose to live where you were born you should be subject to violations of your rights. People born and raised in cities with high crime don't deserve to be robbed or killed because of that fact.

Everything you just said is fundamentally unhinged, and I am under no obligation to refute your insanity. Your entire argument boils down to "everything I don't like is wrong!"

Theft is a crime.
Crime is illegal.

Taxation is law.

Slavery was once legal.
Now it's not, because the laws were changed to reflect the inhumanity of owning another human as property.

The US "forcibly taxes you" the same way literally every other country does.

Don't like it?
Don't pay your taxes, and see what happens.

But for the love of every God out there...stop.talking.

So you believe that if something is a law, it's therefore ethical. Anything considered a law is thereby good.
Got it.

False. You're putting words in my mouth.

The fact that you cannot discern between law, crime, and morality is troubling.

Do everyone a favor, and stop talking. You're dropping the average IQ of humanity every time you reply.

damnnnnnn bro 🤣 🤣 🤣
u dont know what u're talking about
learn some economics before embarassing urself

Hey stay_blink_once!
I appreciate your support but this conversation isn't really useful... once a party has closed their mind to other opinions and starts employing fallacies it's difficult to continue. Anyway you seem to be cool, care to memechat?

sure why not

Funny how you be sayin' I need to "learn about economics" while tellin' on yourself like this...
The conversation is on law and order. Stay on topic.

No need to respond to this post. I hope we can part ways on friendly-ish terms - I don't hate you, you're not a bad person, and I respect your views and keep an open mind to everything you've said.

I would recommend looking into the most basic of introductions to Austrian economic theory and the non-aggression principle. Perhaps read 'The Law' by Frederic Bastiat, an esteemed economist; it will maybe open your eyes to a new way of thinking. Understanding where your opponent is coming from may help you to strengthen your own views, and gather your arguments for the next time! :)