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Yes, that is so true. And it is also true that we should love homosexual people, not hate on them for what they're doing. However, that doesn't mean we should support it. The Bible clearly states that it is a sin. We as Christians, don't need to support what they're doing, however, we should love them instead, pray for them to turn to the truth :')

It is fine to disprove, but a good, Christian thing to do would to support the fight for equality and peace. The amount of hate and violence geared towards the community is heartbreaking, when all they want to do is be themselves.

Oh yes, of course, you're so right. We should fight for equality and peace, no one should be treated differently for any reason. Hate and violence won't turn them to the truth, only love will :')

The word ‘homosexual’ was never in the original Bible. In the original Greek and Hebrew texts, the word that is now translated to ‘homosexual’ actually accurately translates to ‘p*dophile; or ‘boy abuser’ or ‘boy m*lester.’ Just thought that's interesting 🤔

Look up Red Pen Logic's video "Was Homosexuality added to the Bible in 1946?" on YouTube. In short, you are half-right, because homosexual is an English word. However, it is translated as homosexual in the New Testament because it translates from the word 'arsenokoitai', which is a combination of two words, "arsen" meaning man, ane "koitai" or "koite" meaning bed. From what we understand, Paul coined this word himself, and when you really look at it literally, the meaning of it is pretty clear. But regardless, while the Bible does say it is sin, we must show them the love of God in everything. This doesn't mean accepting what they do, but simply embodying Christ in how we talk to other people and allowing the Spirit to guide us. Hatred toward anyone is wrong regardless. Everything should be done in love; otherwise, what are people gonna think of us, and furthermore Christ? Anyway, I recommend watching the video, as he goes more into the details of the translation than I do. God bless.

(TL;DR: Watch the video. Regardless, love other people and embody Christ, no matter the situation. God bless you, friend.)

Fighting for righteousness is very good, and I think the ending statement is good. But something about this feels off.

For one, I can't seem to find any passages regarding stoning people involved in divorce. In fact, quite the opposite; the Torah laws regarding divorce seemed to have been put in place to protect the rights of divorcées (see Deut. 24:1-4). Divorces were legal. However, God does not even desire that divorce be a thing. He even straight up says in Malachi 2:16 that He hates divorce. He allowed men in the Old Testament to divorce their wives only because of the hardness of their hearts (Matt. 19:8), and because He recognizes marriages are between two sinful beings, and so divorces are going to occur. But from the beginning, marriage was meant to be a lifelong commitment. If I am wrong about passages regarding the stoning of divorcées, then you may correct me, but I cannot find anything there, so I think this pastor is mistaken in that regard, sadly.

Second, it cannot be denied that stoning and death sentences were very severe, and may even seem cruel, as the pastor seems to understand them. But you have to take in the historical context. These laws are being given to a nation that has no concept of sin. They do not understand the wrongness of it. So God gives the Ten Commandments, which are a mirror on our own wickedness. The Moral Law. But there were also the ceremonial and ritual laws, which the preacher seems to be talking about here. These were put in place specifically for Israel, and involve sacrifices, tithing, ritual purity, etc. And of course, they touch on stoning and other penalties for sin. Again, they are severe. But I think they were put in place to 1. show how serious sin is to a holy God, both to Israel themselves and to other nations, 2. set Israel apart from other nations who worshiped idols and engaged in all sorts of other practices, most likely the kinds being condemned and sentenced here, and 3. to ensure Israel did not fall into these sins and become like other nations. The important thing to understand is that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) and these people didn't understand sin or its consequences at the time, because they had no moral framework or reference. The death penalties, like I said earlier, showed these nations the seriousness and consequences of sin to Israel and other nations.

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Third, we didn't "overlook" these laws because we thought they were wrong. The reason Christians don't follow the Torah is because it was intended only for Israel at the time, and because Jesus fulfilled much of the practices of the Torah when He died and rose again on the cross. Paul talks more about the Law in Romans and Galatians, and he provides a great amount of understanding in that matter. I highly recommend reading it. But we don't stone people because it is not our job to try and "deliver justice" for sin. That is God's job for the end, and He will have righteous and just judgment. And also, we are in a much different situation than they were. Israel was its own nation ruled by God. It was one place and one people. But Christians are everywhere all over the world, under other nations with their own laws and regulations. Thus, it isn't really our place to deliver justice. But I think the most important reason, overall, is because Jesus paid that price of death for EVERYONE on the cross, and really I should have lead with that, huh? But Jesus paid the fines for our violation of God's Moral Law, and so stoning people like that is not right. Instead, God has given us grace, and we are to tell other people about it, showing them the Ten Commandments so they understand the laws they have broken, and then telling them about what Jesus did to pay their fine and make them right with God. That is the Gospel.

Now, I think the last thing I want to touch on was another thing the pastor said: "the Bible doesn't say anything about the consequences of living a homosexual lifestyle". But this is not true. It may not go in detail, but it does mention consequences. Paul talks in Romans 1 about how they receive the due penalty for their error, which likely may refer to the diseases or illnesses that come from it. But the biggest and most important consequences to understand are the spiritual and eternal ones. For example, they will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:8-10 touch on this aspect. There are consequences, just as there is for other sin.

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With all this in mind, while I think this pastor is at least misguided, he is surely right about one thing: there are no restrictions regarding loving our neighbor. We are to love everyone because God first loved us (1 John 4:19), and if we show hate or disdain over someone because of their sin, this does not represent Christ well. We should stand firm in Biblical truth, but this does not mean hate. Quite the opposite. We are to be friendly, hospitable, and kind toward anyone, even if it can be incredibly difficult. Jesus was all of these things to people. He showed great kindness to the greedy and powerful, the demon-inflicted and wicked, the poor and lowly, etc. But we should also remember that He did not shy away from mentioning sin. When Jesus stopped Jewish leaders from stoning the woman caught in adultery in John 7:53-8:11, He told her to sin no more. When I say this, I do NOT mean we have to constantly remind them of their sin and harass them, but we should make sure they know we believe it is sin. But regardless, make sure they also know that we love them, and that God loves them infinitely more, and that He is calling them to repentance. That is one of the most loving things a Christian can do for someone else, that is, share the Gospel.

It is not hate to believe what the Bible says. The Bible is true, and so if we believe its teachings, we should be treating what it says with the utmost seriousness, and hold fast to its truth. But let's pray for the Holy Spirit to lead us in righteousness and show us how to act in love toward others, no matter the situation. He is our helper and guide, after all.

Thank you for the post. While I disagree with what the preacher says, it is a way to open the door for great discussions about this, and ultimately find the truth. And that is incredibly important in this day and age. I hope my comment was informative and helpful for that purpose. God bless you!

Oh, and I should add: I don't disagree with his conclusion, or the ultimate sentiment being shared. We should fight hatred, not just toward the LGBT but toward any person in general, because hate does nothing to increase love or peace. I do not agree with the LGBT, but I know that hate can only bring forth more hate, and people are so divided these days and all hate each other. But we should work to love one another earnestly, and at the very least if we can't stop hate, we should try our best to have the love of God in a sea of hate. It may make a huge difference. God bless.

Amen, bro

YES, these "christians" are not, dont fall into their trap. we actual christians are loving <3

AMEN I'm not Christian but still

Good thing I'm not Christian, lol (all I want to do is learn more about the religion)

if I was a rapper, I ll rap(not e at the end hell no) these phrases. but anyway :

This is absolutely true in every sense.

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Leviticus 20:13 declares an Old Covenant punishment for homosexuality.