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Debate me | Anyone up for a fun respectful debate? | Topic: is Kyman Canon? Why or why not? | image tagged in funny,demotivationals,south park,kyman,debate,eric cartman | made w/ Imgflip demotivational maker
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You are a menace to society. These characters hate each other.
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I'm a menace to society for having a theory on the relationship between two characters? Talk about terminally online, I didn't sh*t on your lawn for crying own loud.

Do you want to hear my point of view? Do you know what enemies to lovers is???
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Im sorry I apologize for being so aggressive, however it is shown throughout the series that Kyle and Eric hate each other even in the future, plus Eric’s relationship with Heidi is extremely toxic and he only loves himself
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That's okay! Yes, Kyle and Eric have been shown to hate each other, but to say that's all there is to their relationship is very reductive and overall pretty inaccurate. I can name a few events off the top of my head that prove otherwise. I can't fit them all here but these are the best examples in my opinion:

Cartman's side:

Smug Alert: Cartman was getting extremely bored without having Kyle around. Some people say that Cartman only brought Kyle back so he could make his life miserable, but this doesn't make sense considering how he could have just left Kyle's family to die in the Smug storm but chose not to, as well as his decision to stay anonymous as the savior instead of rubbing it in. This shows genuine care even if Eric denies it himself

Tonsil Trouble/Crack Baby Athletic Association/Cupid Ye: These are all really good examples of Cartman finding morality and taking a step back for Kyle's sake alone. When he realises Kyle is seriously distressed and the situation is beyond a simple kerfuffle, he does everything he can to fix the situation. Also, in Tonsil Trouble with the whole gag about people mistaking them for a couple, Kyle quickly corrects them while Cartman just stares with a blank face.

Cartman Finds Love: On the surface it seems obvious that Cartman only started the rumor about being in a relationship with Kyle so that Nichole would back off and get with Tolkien instead, but Cartman is usually a very critical thinker when it comes to manipulation so he would know there are better ways to get Kyle away from Nichole without bringing himself into it. He literally could have just said Kyle was gay on his own and it would work equally as well. If you think about it, it comes across as Cartman trying to drive away Nichole to keep Kyle for himself. This whole scheme is just one big emotional projection.
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Kyle's side:

Raising the bar: A good example of Kyle having genuine care for Cartman when he has no obligation to. He's consistently trying to get Cartman off of those mobility scooters because he's concerned for his health even though that clearly isn't his responsibility, and he gets very defensive of Eric when Tolkien exploits him of TV.

Jewpacabra: Once again, Kyle saves Cartman from a mess he isn't responsible for. Cartman was making stupid rumors to get under Kyle's skin in the beginning, but Kyle definitely caught on the he was getting convinced of his own stupid theory. Even though there was obviously no Jewpacabra and Cartman was never in critical danger, Kyle still decided to wrap Cartman in a blanket, take him to his house, and even tuck him into his bed. He did not need to do all that!!

Weiners Out: You know that hand holding scene with Cartman and Heidi? Kyle looked stunned. Some people say the reaction was caused by one of two thing: either Kyle is simply shocked Cartman has a girlfriend or he's jealous because he has a crush on Heidi. Number one couldn't possibly be right because it's already been well known by the whole school that Wendy once had feelings for Eric in season 4. Number 2 is debatable. The easiest answer is to say that he has a crush on Heidi, but Kyle being unaware of this until the girls tease him about it is very out of character. Kyle is consistently confident in his feelings for other girls in the series, so why would that change now? There were no signs before he pretty much got tricked into thinking this way because of the girls who ended up just convincing him of this. Kyle was jealous of HEIDI, not Eric. There are so many hints in all of season 20 that kind of just prove Kyle didn't want to lose what he had with Cartman.
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There are many, many, many more examples that I don't have the time to write out fully, but I'm working on a giant google doc explaining this fully. Understanding subtext is a very important part of dissecting this relationship.

Also, whether or not Cartman and Kyle SHOULD be in a relationship and how toxic that scenario would be is not what I'm debating (although I do have my stances on that as well). In this particular post I'm only concerned about what's there, not what's moral.

If you want to research further, here's this really good YouTube compilation of Kyman moments (there's some weird subtitles added by the creator lol, I did not make this video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfPVQhVfths&t=1192s
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No
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OK :]
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no
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