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0 ups, 2y,
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Karen is not a slur, and you need to grow thicker skin.

Signed,
Someone who faces actual slurs regularly
0 ups, 2y,
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Tell me, what is the definition of a racial slur? An insult targeting a specific race, correct? Karen is an insult that targets white people. I'm not insulted by it, but it is a racial slur.
1 up, 2y
Karen does not target white people
White people act like karens
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Wait until you hear black and brown people are named Karen too lol
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Using Karen as an insult, not the actual name.
0 ups, 2y
What's your point, Kyle?
0 ups, 2y,
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Karen David and Karen Alexander would like a word lol
0 ups, 2y,
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Not saying the name is wrong, only when used as an insult.
0 ups, 2y,
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LOL you sound weakminded
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
How is saying insulting someone is wrong weak-minded?
0 ups, 2y,
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You have thin skin.
Karen may be an insult, but it's not a slur.

Would calling you a stereotypical "Kyle" be a slur??
No, it wouldn't. Because it's a name, and given names are not races.
Thanks for playing.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
So, if I call any black woman who has a sense of entitlement a "Shaniqua" it's okay?
0 ups, 2y,
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Congratulations, we've reached the *deeply racist* portion of your diatribe.

Way to out yourself, champ.
0 ups, 2y,
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I am arguing that calling someone "Shaniqua" as an insult is NOT okay. That is literally my main point. Just like Karen, the fact that it is a name does not make it ok.
0 ups, 2y
Karen
Is
Not
A
Racial
Slur.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/28/karen-memes-jokes-arent-sexist-or-racist-let-karen-explain/
https://thegrio.com/2020/04/06/karen-slur-white-women-twitter/

“‘Karen’ was a term created *specifically by Black women* to talk about white women’s interpersonal + state violence against us and our communities: calling the police on us for getting coffee, threatening to have us fired, talking down to us at work where we’re now "essential".” - Alicia Sanchez.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Also, it is a name, but it is used to attack white women. It is an insult directed at a specific race, and unless you have a different definition of racial slur, that means it is a racial slur.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
That's
Not
How
Racism
Works.

Prejudices =/= Racism
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Prejudice against a certain race is racism. I don't care what you claim the definition is.
0 ups, 2y
False.
For racism to exist, there must be a level of oppression.

White people are not oppressed.

Therefore, white people **cannot** experience racism.

Go read a f**king book.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
And just because I say it is a racial slur does not mean I, personally, am insulted by it.
0 ups, 2y,
5 replies
If you're claiming it's a slur, it's because you're offended by it.

Thanks for playing.
0 ups, 2y
I've noticed you refuse to answer my question. Why can't you answer a simple question? I showed evidence that it is a real story, so is the psychiatrist racist or not?
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I can say that the n-word is a slur, but I am not offended by it, as I am white.
0 ups, 2y
You 10/10 would say it too, if there weren't consequences for it.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
And why do you keep saying thanks for playing?
0 ups, 2y
You are not high enough level to access this dialogue.
0 ups, 2y,
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Also, earlier you said that I am conflating insults with slurs. That is because the definition, or at least the past definition, of racial slur is "An insult targeting a specific race." Lefties added that dumb oppression definition, but racism does not, in any way, require oppression. For example, there is a story of a black college professor that said she wanted to unload a shotgun into the head of any white person who got in her way, and that she would leave with a pep in her step. If you cannot admit that someone in one race saying they want unload a shotgun into the head of someone in another race is racist, then I am done talking to you, and you can stop arguing.
0 ups, 2y
BREAKING NEWS::
Man finds out definitions change over time, gets mad.

More at 11.
0 ups, 2y
Sorry, psychiatrist, not professor. My mistake.
0 ups, 2y
Answer the second half. Is the psychiatrist racist or not?
0 ups, 2y,
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Listen, dude, you can say that all you want, but it is not true, and stop telling me to "read a book." Just because I hold a different opinion than you does not mean I am illiterate.
0 ups, 2y
Ok, but I'm not uneducated either.
0 ups, 2y
I'm not calling you illiterate.
I'm calling you **uneducated**
0 ups, 2y,
3 replies
BTW, you can't be racist towards white people, because white people are not systemically oppressed.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I would never use the n-word, and I don't know why you think I would.
0 ups, 2y,
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I couldn't have *anything* to do with your original post(!) #SarcasmFont
0 ups, 2y,
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So because I say one word is a racial slur, that means another racial slur is ok to say? Is that actually what you think my logic is? That is ridiculous.
0 ups, 2y,
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Not as ridiculous as your original statement. 🤷‍♂️💁‍♂️
I'm just using your logic.
0 ups, 2y,
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My logic, even if you disagree on the main subject of this meme, is not "one word is a slur, so another slur is ok."
0 ups, 2y,
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Lol yes it is.
See your "Shaniqua" logical fallacy
0 ups, 2y,
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Also, I happen to think I was calm when saying that you were wrong about my argument.
0 ups, 2y
Your behavior, wording, and syntax say otherwise.
0 ups, 2y
What do you mean "syntax?" I can see how the other two sometimes were less calm, but where does my syntax make it look like that?
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
No, I use that Shaniqua argument to show that just because the insult you are using is a name, that does not make it any less insulting. That in no way says that the n-word is ok.
0 ups, 2y
Here's your problem (and I'm gonna spell it out real nicely, since this has gone on too long):

You are conflating insults with racial slurs.
Just because a certain names double as pejoratives or insults for a certain demographic (ie. Entitled White Women), doesn't mean it's a racial slur.

For a word to be a slur, it must be attached to historical/repeated instances of oppression.
White women *are not* oppressed. White people in general *are not* oppressed.
Can you discriminate against white people? Sure. But you can also discriminate against people who wear yellow shoes or drive BMWs.
Is there a system of racism that is used to oppress white people? Absof**kinglutely not.
Ergo, "Karen" is not a slur.
You're just a Chad who's mad that you can't play the victim and get your way.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I asked you a question. When the black psychiatrist said she wanted to unload a shotgun into the head of any white person who got in her way, and leave with a pep in her step, is she racist or not?
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
What the f**k are you talking about?!?

It sounds like you're literally making shit up now. We're done here. Congrats on being a piece of shit.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Nope. It is a real story.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/nyregion/yale-psychiatrist-aruna-khilanani.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/06/09/yale-lecturer-talks-about-killing-white-people/
https://nypost.com/2021/06/04/nyc-pyscho-fantasizes-about-shooting-white-people-in-yale-talk/
0 ups, 2y,
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Hi, I didn't bother reading what you wrote. I just came here to tell you I didn't read anything you wrote.
Bye!
0 ups, 2y
What I'm getting from this is that you know how evil saying that is not racist is, so you won't say that. But, you also know that leftist ideology forbids you from defending white people, so you refuse to answer the question. And if you say it is a fake story, that is called ignoring facts. I gave you three newspapers that reported on the same thing, and refusing to read it is purposely staying ignorant.
0 ups, 2y
Even if the story was not real, I still want you to answer the question: Is saying you want to unload a revolver (apparently it wasn't a shotgun) into the head of anyone of a different race, for no reason, and being joyful as you leave, racist?
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Shut up. Just shut up. that is not what racism is, some random leftist came up with that definition, for so many years it has been correctly defined: thinking one race is inferior to another.
0 ups, 2y,
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LOL no, that's exactly what racism is. Go read a book.
0 ups, 2y
I don't want to play the victim. I just was pointing out a fact, and clearly, we have different definitions of racial slur, so I'm getting tired of arguing.
0 ups, 2y,
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I won't be told what racism is/isn't by a 13yo
0 ups, 2y,
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How did you make a comment that I can't reply to?
0 ups, 2y
I didn't. Mods did.
0 ups, 2y,
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First, why do you think I'm 13? Second, you seem like a leftist, and if you are a modern leftist, you can't even tell me what a woman is, so I am not listening to your definition. Third, you look at white people and black people as groups, not individuals. Are you saying that I, during the 2012s, had more systematic power than Obama? If there is a black jail warden and a white prisoner, does the prisoner have more power? Also, white people are literally discriminated against by giant businesses in the US, as they specifically hire black people. Black people literally have an entire MONTH dedicated to them, but white people don't.
0 ups, 2y,
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"First, why do you think I'm 13?"
I'm a middle school teacher, and you're acting like one.

"Second, you seem like a leftist, and if you are a modern leftist, you can't even tell me what a woman is, so I am not listening to your definition."
And you sound like a right-wing extremist. By your logic, anyone not following your way of thinking is a leftis.
Moreover, you're using a red herring sprinkled with ad hominem to try and negate my point--which won't work, because the fact remains that "Karen" is not, and never will be, a slur; racial or otherwise.
Lastly, my political alignment has *nothing* to do with factual statements.

"Are you saying that I, during the 2012s, had more systematic power than Obama? If there is a black jail warden and a white prisoner, does the prisoner have more power?"
You're failing to understand the concept of "systemic," let alone systemic racism. I have neither time, patience, nor character space to explain it to you. Go read a book.

"white people are literally discriminated against by giant businesses in the US."
False. White people are less exploitable under late-stage capitalism.

"Black people literally have an entire MONTH dedicated to them, but white people don't."
Black folk had their heritage robbed of them through centuries of slavery.
Try these hats on:
Irish American Heritage Month - March
Greek Heritage Month - also March
Jewish American Heritage Month - May
French American Heritage Month - July
German American Heritage Month - October
Italian American Heritage Month - also October

Y'all have 'em. You just don't celebrate them.
0 ups, 2y,
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My point with the woman definition was that you can't define basic words, so why do I care how you define racial slur. You can prove me wrong- just give me a definition of woman. Also, if systemic does not mean what I thought you were meaning, then why can't you describe what it does mean? Also, for my fourth point you "debunked", that being white people being discriminated against by businesses, have you heard of affirmative action? It specifically hires black people over white people, which is discriminatory. And for my point about black history month, I will correct myself: Black people have a month that is celebrated by the media, by congress, and by basically everything else. White people are not celebrated by any of those things, unless they fill another identity box, like woman or lgbt.
0 ups, 2y,
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Your points are still illogical, regardless of what you think.
We're done here.
0 ups, 2y,
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Okay. If you want to be done arguing, we can.
0 ups, 2y
I've been having a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed.
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