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UNO Draw 25 Cards Meme | Democrats; Admit it's wrong to kill babies | image tagged in memes,uno draw 25 cards | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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4 ups, 2y,
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It's called abortion, and 60,000,000 lives have been taken.
3 ups, 2y
true story
3 ups, 2y,
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Yet you are lying in saying that abortion doesn't take a life.
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0 ups, 2y,
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You can't take something that doesn't exist yet - spilling a bowl of batter on the floor doesn't "take a cake", and removing a developing organism before it has the biological prerequisites for life isn't taking one.
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Oh, but unborn babies have the prerequisites for life!

They can't survive in the world because they belong in the uterus, where they will grow and flourish. They have an umbilical cord and have living cells, and will grow to become a baby when they're ready. Violently taking the prerequisites away from them is not okay. They are a human.

Now, I used the arguement that the unborn are human, which you seem to have supported in a comment above here. You also argued that "half of all pregnancies end in a miscarriage", which justifies abortion by it being natural. But just because something naturally happens doesn't mean that it's right for us humans to do. We know better. Murdering a helpless developing baby because it is inconvenient isn't right.

In addition, a miscarriage usually happens in a woman's body because the baby isn't developing right and it will kill her, which would also kill the baby. So the body terminates the baby. A miscarriage is the trolley problem, one or two die. You know the answer.

I know this isn't sufficient to answer all of your arguements. And I hope you respect this reply a little more than the meme comments above this. If you want to contest this, or you still have questions, feel free to poke at this!
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0 ups, 2y,
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You're pushing goalposts in an attempt to rationalize an unreasonable belief - maintaining homeostasis is requisite for life, and developing organisms are yet to be capable of doing so, ergo not life.

And no, most miscarriages don't happen because carrying to term would kill the woman - that's an utterly ridiculous claim.
0 ups, 2y
Seemed that you're defining an organisms ability to have homeostasis as what gives them life. But what about people on life support? They too have homeostasis, but with some help. So why are the unborn any different?

I got better info on miscarriages. It happens for a variety of reasons, whether chromosomes, health conditions, or something else. If the baby kept growing with DNA damage, it would grow abnormally and could damage, even kill the mother. Do note that most miscarriages happen because of DNA damage. And if it was because of a health condition, it would probably have happened because even with help, the baby couldn't keep up its homeostasis. Given the proportions of causes, it might be reasonable to say that miscarriages happen because the mom's life could end.
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0 ups, 2y,
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No one is pretending babies aren't human beings - that's one of those lies I was talking about.

Another lie is that embryos, fetuses, and infants are all the same thing because no one is going to get emotional over something being done medically that happens naturally in half of all pregnancies anyway.
3 ups, 2y,
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0 ups, 2y,
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Oh look, the liar learned how to project.

"As many as 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage -- most often before a woman misses a menstrual period or even knows they’re pregnant. About 15%-25% of recognized pregnancies will end in a miscarriage."
3 ups, 2y,
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0 ups, 2y,
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Perhaps you shouldn't have such strong opinions about something you clearly don't know much about?

https://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/pregnancy-miscarriage
0 ups, 2y,
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Hmmm. I will admit I had never heard that anywhere.
Mayo Clinic says 10-20%. Kaiser says 10-20%. But there is a 50% figure on that page that looks like the cherry you picked:
So you found a number you liked. Good for you and your willingness to support baby murder.
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50% is for all pregnancies - the 10-20% number is for recognized pregnancies, which you might have realized if you paid attention to the qualifier "confirmed by testing" that appears in the second sentence (or actually read the link I posted, since it says exactly that).
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