there is no real counter hit besides stopping his Time Skip with a tap attack

you could say Beast Gohan or LL 17 or Tag Vegeta/Trunks,

but

1- beast gohan is mid now
2- LL 17 doesnt have high damage capabilities to counter hit properly
3- Tag V/T is also more of a utility unit meant to disrupt the enemy and not a high damage dealer

As for Tag V/T, you have never seen his blast damage.

i havent played against them much so i can say that i could be wrong, though if they were really that good then they would be ran much more

Well, Tag V/T is a bit of a sleeper unit, kinda like rev UI. Great damage, but kinda squishy once you get the jump on them.

in Revui we trust

i love him

Yeah, I keep seeing people complaining that he is mid. Clearly, the have not seen his sp damage.

yeah, im hoping to pull LF buuu saga SS3 goku, and LF ssb vegeta one more time both for their zenkais

I wanna pull Ultra ssgss Vegito for the 5th anniversary, but the chances are slim.

im hoping for tag Goku/Freiza, and im coping for it to be an assist with 17 as well

A triple tag unit? Man, you sure are coping hard.

not triple tag, a regular tag but an assist like Broly and paragus, or Kale and caulifla

Pretty sure there isn't a Broly/Paragus assist, but I see what you are getting at.

ah

its broly and cheelai actually

Wanna continue this in memechat?

sure, but my computer bouta die

Beasthan isn't mid if you par him with the right units, but nevertheless, he is getting powercreeped a bit.

agreed, but I feel like the only good units to pair him with are UGB and Pan, and UGB is an ultra, so not many people have him, and Pan still hasnt come back into banners so its not as common to see his best team running around, even in God ranks because of the powercreep like you just said, Beast just isnt ran as much anymore

Indeed, especially since Ultra Rose kicked his ass to the curb.

yep
best team right now is God Ki, Blue Zamasu, UGB, and Rose, with Zamasu and UGB getting zenkai buffs, Mai in last for health buffs and UGB in Leader slot

That team is great if you know how to use it, but I shredded those setups with my Ssj team.

android team>>>>

have you seen this guy on tiktok who runs a 5x zenkai buffed USG with nameku and Bardock lolol

Yeah, I have seen the android team coming back, especially with Tag 17/18. They truly are a forced to be reckoned with.

100%

18s green card with reduce vanish guage is easily the most broken thing in the game, if it werent for them getting powercrept by bad teams on release they would still be much more popular, but Zenkai 21 and LF 17 turned androids in a really good direction

Yo, what team do you run?

LF 17
red, green, blue 21 all at zenkai 7
Tag 17/18
and f2p android 18 for z ability

Indeed, although there is a setup that I once used to troll people a long time ago.
It was LF Kid Buu, Ex and Sp Whis, and I forgot the other units.
Lets just say I was vanishing like crazy.

the new red cell with Whis and Yajirobe is a broken team

i also have a very hot take on Cell

he is top 10, with transforming, decent damage before the transform, healing on green card, and damage inflicted on card draw, if played right, Cell is the best unit in the game

Alright
Imma keep that in mind when I'll fix my Future Trunks Saga team

do keep in mind that V/T are still good though

Yeah I do
But I'm trying to understand how to have bench characters work

Db legends talk, I see?

Yes

indeed