how is he even low teir

maybe spammers idk

how is king K rool low teir?!

oh nah, thats even worse, he is at least A tier

in the "official" smash tier list he's in D tier (the lowest because there is no E or F teir)

L tier list

with isablle and king dede

bad recovery,weak jabs,not very many kill moves, decent combing, special moves are trash,

bad recovery? dude... hes not Dr. mario and little mac

true but if you use up-b and someone hits you, your dead and while side-b is a good horizontal recovery move, people can predict it and hit you while your going and takes so long to cancel it

that's true