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true | how the Avengers should defeat Kang the Conqueror:; MAY I SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGE- I MEAN “KEVIN”? K.E.V.I.N., THIS MOVIE ISN’T ENDING PROPERLY | image tagged in kang the conqueror,she hulk,ant man,avengers the kang dynasty | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
834 views 24 upvotes Made by Funguy. 2 years ago in MarvelFanatics
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1 up, 2y,
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What if, because Kevin won’t do things for her anymore, she takes Sylvie with her, and she enchants Kevin, and takes back what she did at the end of Loki
1 up, 2y,
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That would be a W ending
but they can’t do that because there’s 2 Avengers movies in the same year, implying that just like with Thanos in Infinity War, Kang is going to win in the Kang Dynasty (hence the title). So if they end that way in Secret Wars (a title which implies characters beyond Kang might be coming), people are just going to argue that they should’ve done that in Kang Dynasty.
That’s the danger of making characters too OP, you run the risk of having to make characters not think of simple ways to win just because you need tension to happen. Nothing that happened in Endgame made Infinity War look stupid because our heroes didn’t have access to what they did in Endgame, which enabled them to win. But if they did this with Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars, nobody would take them seriously.
And they’ve got a high bar to set after Infinity War and Endgame, especially since they’ve dropped Avengers movies in every phase in the Infinity Saga but opted to skip the first two phases in the Multiverse Saga. They’re keeping us waiting for Avengers movies, so they’ve got to make these epic, probably even more epic than Infinity War and Endgame, which is going to be REALLY hard (especially since in the Infinity Saga they were trying to appeal to fans and Phase 4 has had some moments that were meant to make fans livid, and so they may have lost a lot of their audience [maybe they wanted Thanos’ snap to apply to their fanbase as well?]).
The one way they can undo 2022 (because they didn’t put much good stuff out last year and lost a lot of fans) is for Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania to be insanely good (since it will set off the Kang Dynasty). If that is really good [and it looks like it will be], and they decide to go back to making fans happy, they could get the franchise back on track.
Spider-Man No Way Home was insanely good, like on the level of Endgame. They can still make good stuff. And it benefits them to; when they make fans happy they make the mullah. Plus more Avatars are coming; do they want to be able to compete with the Avatar movies with the next two Avenger movies? (now idrc about Avatar much and prefer the MCU much more)
1 up, 2y,
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Just thought it was a fun idea because Sylvie started it, and it would be cool if she ended it.
Very good points tho!
0 ups, 2y,
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yeah that would be really cool

plus they could really try to do a number redeeming Wanda too, they really messed her up in MoM. For comic fans, we'll understand that her having the Darkhold meant she wasn't in her right mind and was basically being possessed (if you pause the moment she snapped Charles Xavier's neck, that's her real form while corrupted by the Darkhold and she's using magic to make herself appear human throughout the whole movie). But I don't think they did a good enough job explaining that in the movie and so it left many people with the impression that she just went loco and is very evil. They could do some interesting things with this character but I think the next time we see her on screen they should make these things ultra clear. (Wanda was one of my favorite Avengers from the start and I didn't think making her a villain just off the bat when we haven't seen her in a year was the best move either. If she would be a villain, show us the arc and make us understand why, even if it was being possessed by the Darkhold. The way they did it seemed very sudden and almost out of place.)
One way they could try to make the audience sympathize with her is to bring Chthon (the demon who made the Darkhold and put his own will inside of it [think lord of the rings]) into the MCU so we can see that the Darkhold was its own separate entity in person, and then have her battle him bc she knows what it's like being possessed by him. (My only worry is that they might lose the PG-13 rating with that character bc he's extremely powerful and extremely messed up).

The reason I mention her tho is bc she also can alter reality, just like Kang, and thus, besides K.E.V.I.N., she might be the team's best weapon at trying to go toe to toe with him (although if he felt like it he could just go kill baby Wanda but that's not his character to do such a thing). So there's some opportunity to at least try redeeming her.
1 up, 2y,
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Cool!
0 ups, 2y,
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yea
if you couldn't tell already I'm kind of a comic nerd (tho I haven't liked many of the recent comics). So naturally I liked when the MCU was recreating stuff from the comics in film bc film will always be cooler.
But I don't like it when they deviate from the comics for political reasons, especially when there's newer comics to pull from if you want to go that route (though I'd argue those aren't necessarily the best).
Idk too much about she-hulk but ik enough to know that the show had zero things in common with the comics and basically was a hit piece on men (which the comic wasn't). I have seen some ppl on YouTube that were especially obsessed with She-Hulk tho and so they absolutely detested the show.
But what the writer for the MCU's x men cartoon reboot (yes they're making that soon) said kinda shows what the problem has been. They made a rule that in order to be in the production for it, you had to be a fan of the source material. Some of the ppl behind she hulk had never heard of her and never read marvel comics b4 they got the job. The wandavision writers (and I really love that show) didn't even know who Mephisto was when people started suspecting he would show up in the show. This is a big problem when the audience loves the material more than the people writing the adaptation do. This is why people hated the new LOTR show and why Henry Cavill left the Witcher (the people working on the X men reboot said the Witcher producers just mock the source material in the writing room, and think it's absolutely stupid, and Cavill is a fan of the series). Fans take fantasy seriously and if the directors don't, the fans aren't going to appreciate that. The fact that the X men cartoon writers are saying that really makes me excited for the show.

Anyway I'm prolly saying too much lol
0 ups, 2y
Don’t worry , you’re good!
All very good ideas
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