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(gona put this in a new thread for the sake of easier reading)

While I agree that some furries are not degenerate fuсking pieces of shit.

I will have to disagree with the sexual fandom. A large percentage of furry artists I have interviewed and interacted with have admitted to at least once drawing and publishing porn, or sexually suggestive versions of their fursona.

And a large percentage of the furries in real life, that I have interviewed (and yes, I went to a real convention) have claimed they have wished for, or have had, sexual relationships within their fursonas.

So roughly around, 72% of furry artists and fursuit wearers I have interviewed have expressed sexual deviancy, which is a staggering amount, and around 17 of that percentage have expressed interest in relationships with an animal, if it was legal. And 8% claimed they would do so even if it wasn't, and they had the guts for it.

This is a staggering amount. This places (judging solely on the numbers I interviewed) around 1 in Every 5 furries to be sexual deviants of some kind.

Given human history. And due to the fact such a large number of furries ARE Indeed deviants of some kind, it is very understandable to see why furries are so disliked.

Deviancy, especially of the sexual kind, is often frowned upon within functioning society due to the Roman catholicism and Christian influence upon the world, it also goes against what is considered the status quo, or what is natrualy considered human. And another thing I must bring up. Is rain furrest contributed to the growing hatred that furries face, because well, they were trusted to be civil and well.. they weren't.

My sources:
Fur affinity.
Real life
Several places on the Internet such as discord and the like.

The claim that 72% of furries are "sexual deviants" and that a significant portion of the community engages in inappropriate or illegal sexual behavior is not supported by credible evidence. Personal anecdotes and interviews with a small sample of individuals cannot be used to make generalizations about the entire furry community. It is important to note that the furry community is diverse and includes individuals with a wide range of interests and experiences.

Additionally, the use of terms like "deviant" and "deviancy" to describe certain types of behavior is stigmatizing and not supported by scientific evidence. It is not accurate or fair to label a large group of people as "deviant" based on the behavior of a small subset of individuals.

It is also worth noting that the incident at Rainfurrest 2015, while it did involve some inappropriate behavior, does not reflect the entire furry community and should not be used to make generalizations about all furries. It is not uncommon for any large gathering of people, not just furries, to have some incidents of inappropriate behavior.

In conclusion, the claim that the furry community is predominantly made up of "sexual deviants" is not supported by credible evidence and is not an accurate or fair portrayal of the community as a whole.

The statement that "furry fandom is a surprisingly very sexual fandom" and that a significant portion of the community engages in zoophilia and consumes furry pornography is not supported by the cited sources. The Anthropomorphic Research Project study found that a majority of furries do consume some form of furry media, including pornography, but it does not provide data on the percentage of furries who engage in zoophilia or other illegal or unethical activities. The Furry Research Center study found that 17% of furries reported an interest in zoophilia, but it does not provide data on the percentage of furries who have actually engaged in zoophilic behavior.

Furthermore, the incident at Rainfurrest 2015 does not reflect the entire furry community and should not be used to make broad generalizations about all furries. It is not uncommon for any large gathering of people, not just furries, to have some incidents of inappropriate behavior.

As for the claim that searching for "furry rapes their pet" returns nearly 7 million results, this is not a reliable source of information. It is important to note that search engine algorithms often prioritize sensational and controversial topics, which may result in a higher number of search results for certain phrases. It is not accurate to use search engine results as evidence of the prevalence of a particular behavior within a community.

In conclusion, the statement that the furry fandom is "a surprisingly very sexual fandom" with a high prevalence of zoophilia and other inappropriate behavior is not supported by credible evidence and should be viewed with skepticism.

While I agree that some furries are not degenerate fuсking pieces of shit.

I will have to disagree with the sexual fandom. A large percentage of furry artists I have interviewed and interacted with have admitted to at least once drawing and publishing porn, or sexually suggestive versions of their fursona.

And a large percentage of the furries in real life, that I have interviewed (and yes, I went to a real convention) have claimed they have wished for, or have had, sexual relationships within their fursonas.

So roughly around, 72% of furry artists and fursuit wearers I have interviewed have expressed sexual deviancy, which is a staggering amount, and around 17 of that percentage have expressed interest in relationships with an animal, if it was legal. And 8% claimed they would do so even if it wasn't, and they had the guts for it.

This is a staggering amount. This places (judging solely on the numbers I interviewed) around 1 in Every 5 furries to be sexual deviants of some kind.

My sources:
Fur affinity.
Real life
Several places on the Internet such as discord and the like.

bruh main issue is that fur affinity is a porn site ofc its mainly going to be porn lmfaooo
real life?? bro tf?
"places on the internet" lmfaaooo thats heavily biased bc all you do is look at the bad

you have no proof of your claims but lets say they are true
most have drawn porn yes but lets remove the furry fandom, ask artist that arent furries if they have drawn porn, more will say yes than furries

ofc furries have wished to have sexual relations with their sona, ask any girl who they dreamed about having sex with, all women will have an answer

your numbers seem highly made up and you have no proof

even if every 1 in 5 furries was a sexual deviant the number for non furries would be higher

I guess it felt like that, but that wasn't really my intention. Sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to hide behind smt or anything, I'm more or less trying to learn so I can construct better arguments for this stuff.

Lol, I ligit started supportive saying not all of them are bad, how am I only looking at the bad?

because you are only talking about how 1 in every 100 furries are overly sexual and how it makes the whole fandom bad

I gave you a reason why people dislike furries, I gave you personal studies that I conducted on both real life, and on the Internet. I don't know what you want my guy. You now know why people dislike furries. And I never said the whole fandom was bad. I simply stated research suggesting that a number of furries I interviewed in real life display a want for sexual interactions with eachother with a SMALL percentage wanting to do it with a animal. I simply stated that a large percentage of furryies are sexualized in some way

I already told you this
YOUR. STUDIES. ARE. INACCURATE. DUE. TO. LOW. NUMBERS. OF. INTERVIEWEES.

Lol, your raging so hard over a PERSONAL STUDY.

I never said it was all encompassing. I simply stated out of the ones I interviewed a large number display over sexualization.

im not mad?
im saying your personal study isnt credible with no proof and only a small number interviewed henceforth it shouldnt be used as any argument

I never even said it was ligit. All I said was the ones I interviewed expressed those. It's not like it's 100% fact. I simply used it as a groundwork to explain to you why no one likes furries.

but that cant be used as it is inaccurate
and you just said you could be lieing

I'm just telling you what I saw. And since neither of us can confirm nor deny that without actually being there. Let's drop that piece of evidence, due to it not being useful for anything anyways.

I'm going to conduct more research. Which will likely take another month. But that's ok, because I strive to be honest with debating.

But we both have to agree that the sexual part of the fandom is out of control, and that is what a lot of People are first exposed to. Which often leads a sour note when it comes to furries as a whole.

you are dropping the "evidence" i proved was fake?
i dont agree the sexual part of the fandom is out of control, it exist and people are fine with it and most arent exposed to that part as the first thing they see unless they are seeing the fandom from a hater

It can't be proven true as most of you deducing is "they wouldn't do that so your lying" when I said most of it were private properties and farms. And I never even said that they were in expensive fursuits, if I may clarify, a large chunk just had smt like a mask, or ears and tail. I think like only one of them had a suit and he did stay indoors. But hey, since I can't confirm that other than what I experienced personally, that's why I suggested we disregard that part of my evidence, as it's easy to either disprove or disregard Due to the fact it was personal experience.

And also, I just wanna say,
1: this is the most fun argument I've had with a furry and I appreciate the civility
2: we have kids under 16 doing vapes and getting high and driving cars, I don't think the cops would care if some furry sold porn at his own event or smt.

well at least you arent like hanz and dont just ignore everything that goes against what you say
and if it is private than the porn isnt a issue as it isnt public you originally said it was public and your story has changed

Well I never said they were indeed public, I mistakingly thought they were ligitmately conventions untill you corrected me.

but i corrected you many comments ago and yet you didnt say "i guess they were private" you tried to stick to your story and only change it once you had no other option

Lol, I never said I was lying. I said that my numbers might not be accurate due to the fact I only went to three conventions.

But it doesn't change the fact I saw a large number of porn sold at each one. And kink sharing, the sex part is indeed one of the loudest aspects of the furry community. And people like you don't want to accept it, and that's ok, but know that's why people don't like furries. Mayhaps if you guys made it so it was harder to find that stuff, or bury even a little, people would like you.

dude you have to be lying it is illegal for porn to be sold at furry conventions lmfao

You also have to forgive me if I'm not making sense, it's like. 12:46 here so I'm not on my A-game at all lol.

Whatever you wanna believe my g. But I'ma refocus on my original statement. That OUT OF THE FURRIES I INTERVIEWED a percent showed sexual (whatever word you wanna hear)

This is one of the prime reasons for the furry hatred. As what most people see is the ugly side of the fandom.

not makin sense doesnt equal lying, you are in the same timezone as me

I mean, that's not what I saw. But hey, I'll take your word for itm

you dont need to take my word
you need to read the laws bro
you coulnt have seen it unless laws were being broken and then the hotel staff would call the police lmfao

Dude I don't know what to tell you. Other than that's what I experienced personally. Call it crazy if you want.

its crazy

Again, I was invited to them, mostly because I'm supportive of my freinds. Ig. And it's south Dakota my g. We're in love with dirt.

you are just lying
no body would do that

And the ones I went to were hosted on private properties like farms and stuff cuase. -banjo noises-

ok? that doesnt matter?
if you as a non-furry were able to access it, it was public
and i highly doubt there was anything on a farm, no furry is going to go in dirt or dust with their 5k suit
stop lying bro

furry cons are public at a public hotel meaning no porn can be visible as minors could see it, you are just lying now dawg

I don't know what to tell you man, but that's what I saw. But I can't use that as evidence due to the fact that I didn't bother to record that in my log. Again they were not on public property. They were on large farms and stuff. So I'ma assume they were the so called "raves" you speak of.

you have changed your story
you are lying stories dont just change

And I'm not 100% sure they were even like, real cons. I HOPE they don't sell porn at real ones. But all the "unofficial " I guess ones did

you went from saying you went to 3 CONVENTIONS and that you are credible to saying you went to 3 non-conventions??
official or not they cant sell porn, if you went to it that means it is public, therefore it cant exist, if it did happen i would know because police would be called

Not at all. They happened to be more or less like parties, ECT. I don't know how to explain it, as in south Dakota, things are a little weird with the furry community, one moment they exist the next they're gone for months.

that is called a convention or a furry rave(which is still a convention)?
they are there because people fly in to go to popular furry conventions that have a lot of people and after the few days people leave and their wont be another con in that state for awhile

Bro you using chatgpt or something

A zoophile is someone who is defined as someone who is sexually attracted to animals, not someone who has sex with animals.

So basically a zoophile is a zoophile

What point are you making?

a zoophile is someone that has sex with animals!?!?
interest in zoophilia isnt zoophilia quite yet
its like saying someone is a murder when they only have the thought of i want to murder someone without a specific target

Given human history. And due to the fact such a large number of furries ARE Indeed deviants of some kind, it is very understandable to see why furries are so disliked.

Deviancy, especially of the sexual kind, is often frowned upon within functioning society due to the Roman catholicism and Christian influence upon the world, it also goes against what is considered the status quo, or what is natrualy considered human. And another thing I must bring up. Is rain furrest contributed to the growing hatred that furries face, because well, they were trusted to be civil and well.. they weren't.

most people are deviants
about the rain fur festival thing take into account mobs like people fighting
do you hate people because of that? no, so why furries?

It doesn't matter of a "a minority of them aren't" the loudest person screaming in the room is going to make the toddler cry, and another reason people dislike furries so much, is the fact that they let it fester as "kinks" and "fursona traits" when I'm truth they're being disgusting pieces of shit.

i didnt say a minority arent? i said your info is inaccurate, and how does a toddler relate to this? look at non furries dude look at their kinks and shit, its let to be because nobody can do anything and why start a fight that will never be won by either side

I'm trying to explain to you why furries are disliked, and the toddler was a analogy. The f**ked up side of the furry fandom, happens to be the most that everyone sees, he's it's bad reputation. And the fact that your community doesn't really take steps to redeem this.

The f**ked up side of the furry fandom is what YOU see, your feed from any site is personalize, the algorithm has found you dislike furries so it will only show the bad.
Furries do try to redeem it but once again YOU dont see it due to your biased, if you see someone doing a nice action you are less likely to remember it than a bad action. Its a human trait that we only remember and notice the bad.

Not at all. I guarantee if I asked people, what they Saw of the furry fandom, they would likely say that they are deviants of some sort of intensity.

ofc their are nsfw people to a extent but that isnt the whole fandom, the people you are friends with are most likely furry haters ofc they would say "yea furry are only about sex"

Which.. happens to involve.. what. Pornography.

no?!?!?
conventions are mainly fund raisers, raves, public suiting, furry shop area (forgor word), and more
quite a lot of furries are minors, conventions arent about porn, they are held publicly in a hotel

Not at all. Now you are making assumptions of my inner circle, when the fact is I am freinds with a few furries, who would probably agree that the loudest part of the furry fandom happens to be the degenerate part.

im making assumptions that most would agree are rightful to make, the "loudest part" of the furry fandom isnt the sex part, the loudest part is the conventions

ONG

Actually you are hopping to a conclusion. Unlike you, who most likely copied and pasted your "research" based off pure emotion. I have you both a real life study, conducted by me personally, over the course of several months, and gave you a genuine reason why people dislike furries to begin with.

ok but like:
The claim that 72% of furries are "sexual deviants" and that a significant portion of the community engages in inappropriate or illegal sexual behavior is not supported by credible evidence. Personal anecdotes and interviews with a small sample of individuals cannot be used to make generalizations about the entire furry community. It is important to note that the furry community is diverse and includes individuals with a wide range of interests and experiences.

Additionally, the use of terms like "deviant" and "deviancy" to describe certain types of behavior is stigmatizing and not supported by scientific evidence. It is not accurate or fair to label a large group of people as "deviant" based on the behavior of a small subset of individuals.

It is also worth noting that the incident at Rainfurrest 2015, while it did involve some inappropriate behavior, does not reflect the entire furry community and should not be used to make generalizations about all furries. It is not uncommon for any large gathering of people, not just furries, to have some incidents of inappropriate behavior.

In conclusion, the claim that the furry community is predominantly made up of "sexual deviants" is not supported by credible evidence and is not an accurate or fair portrayal of the community as a whole.

What would you like me to say, I was trying to be respectful with the deviant word, when in truth I meant, disgusting peices of shit with kinks that don't fit in civil society.

It is not acceptable to use derogatory language or slurs to describe any group of people, including those who identify as furries. Using such language is harmful and only serves to perpetuate negative stereotypes and discrimination.

It is important to remember that individuals who identify as furries are just that - individuals. They come from a wide range of backgrounds and have a diverse range of interests and experiences. It is not fair or accurate to make broad generalizations about the entire furry community based on the behavior of a small subset of individuals.

It is important to treat all people with respect and kindness, regardless of their interests or identities.

Hence why I used the words deviant you baboon.

No duh because you are wanting to "insult" me in a argument

Not at all. Again you are arguing with your emotions rather than logic. I used the words deviant as a token of respect, as to try not to offend.

bro i havent used my emotions once what are you talking about?
deviant isnt respectful dude

Then you start complaining "we're not all badddd hfhsjakskdnh" then you refuse to hear anyone else's argument.

i hear others arguments?
i did say we are all not bad because it seems as though you think that way

Its more respect than saying furfuсk.

or you could say sexualization?

IVE USED CHATGPT SO MUCH THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD SAY

ok?

BRO THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT CHATGTP WOULD SAY

ok?

But like seriously that’s what chat gpt would say

If you’re gonna argue with someone, don’t use a bot to do all the work for you. Do something yourself and try learning something out of it

r/facepalm

Oh wait nvm I see the joke