I hope nobody has posted this before

We all agree... What happend to him really? He looked like a nice guy first but then- we all like: WHO ARE YOU?

PTSD.
He is displaying classic behavioral characteristics of PTSD.

I think they destroyed his character so he can have character development for the last 4 minutes of the movie but that wasn't a great Idea

That was a horrible Idea

waitamonute... who ARE you?

I want a petition to make this non canon
(Idk if it even is, it’s certainly not in my head)

It is canon, but it's also not in my head

Or at least I try

Luke did it to himself.

Who wrote the scenario???? I am absolutely sure it's not Luke Skywalker

You're looking at it in a perspective of cinema politics, I'm going with the story, which is consistent with the character.

If you are going with the story, I agree. I just don't think the OT Luke Skywalker would do that. I think for the plot the people that wrote the scenario put a story that doesn't work

For OT Luke, no. But this is what, 20 years later? Do you know how much people change in 20 years? People complain about no character growth, but when it happens in a way that makes sense, they complain? Like... what?

Sorry, but nobody that I know complain about Luke's character growth because he already has one before. They do change in 20 years, yes, but it's not what people want. Don't talk for realism in a Sci fi film because it doesn't have to exist

So, it's okay for Luke to be Gary Stu, but not Rey? Makes more sense.

I don't know what Gary Stu is. Also, I never asked for character development at Rey. For me, first impressions matter and besides if Rey becomes the best character, I'm not going to like her

Gary Stu is the male form of a Mary Stu - nothing goes wrong with them, they do everything right and come out without punishment in any confrontation.

At least you're open with your unfair anti-Rey bias. You don't want her to be the best, even though no one has claimed her to be the best.

And also, characters change for a reason. There is no way a character changed because of a bad dream, especially by a Jedi which they shouldn't even be afraid at all (that's also silly, but we don't have to change subject)

You think he fell because of a bad dream...?

Do I need to explain how much you weren't paying attention?

Oh Sh*t I messed it up. Sorry, I was thinking of someone from the MCU

And yes, I wasn't paying attention at all

Please remind me what happened

*ahem* Let me start with going over the context that sets up the relevance on why the sequel is great. Here's a way to look at what Luke goes through during the OT which is not incorrect.
First, Luke had no parents growing up. He had his Uncle and Aunt who, for having been exposed to droids that carried sensitive data, were incinerated and left unceremoniously to smoke out in the sun. No burial. Of course, this is after Luke learned his father was a heroic mystical member of an Order called the Jedi and murdered by the same guy who just ordered his aunt and uncle to be killed.
With his friend from Tatooine, they find that the Empire has destroyed an entire planet. Billions of lives, gone. And this same Vader guy serves the same faction. Vader goes on to kill his mentor.
During an attack on the Deathstar, Vader shoots down one of his friends from Tatooine.
In Empire, Vader uses his friends as pawns in a game to bait him out for a confrontation. In a match where Vader is just toying with Luke and bullying him, showing him that he is no match for Vader, he is told by Vader that he is actually Luke's father. So not only his aunt and Uncle were lying about him being a spice miner, but they were (in his eyes) lying about who his father *really* was. Especially Obiwan. Obiwan had been lying this whole time.
Rejecting the notion completely, Luke chooses to believe that there is good in him. He does this because he doesn't want to believe he can be related to Vader , someone described not having an ounce of goodness in him. Because that means Luke is just as capable of such evil.
During their duel on the Death Star, Luke stands his ground and refuses to fight his father. That is, until Vader tells Luke that he's expendable - that there is his sister that he can go after. Luke believes that Leia would break under pressure from Vader. After everything Luke had done to show him mercy and compassion, Vader threw it in his face again and again. Luke couldn't take it. With every hit of his saber, you can see flashes of his life and every time Vader hurt him until out of rage, Luke delimbs him. Luke went unchecked and dipped into the same rage that his father has.
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Why it all matters:
When Luke defeated the Empire, he wanted to restart the Jedi Order. He thought he could do better than his predecessors, but he hadn't learned from their mistakes. In his pride, he thought that he would be able to see the darkness in anyone around him. 1/

2/ So, when Luke takes in his Nephew, he finds his nephew is not only turning to the dark side, but he's powerless to stop it. He goes to confront his nephew, and looked into his nephew's heart. And in one instant moment, he saw the darkness in him and how much Snoke had already turned him. In that same instant, he thought he could stop it. So, like his father, Luke ignites his saber with that fleeting moment of intent to kill his student as Vader/Anakin killed the younglings. Luke saw what he was doing was wrong and immediately felt shame.

Kylo saw this as an affirmation of what he believed about Luke and instead followed in his grandfather's footsteps. The Order - destroyed. Just Like Yoda, he confronted the dark, failed, lost his order, and went into exile.
====== So what does this mean for Luke?

Luke is experiencing PTSD. Luke recognized that if Kylo Ren would become the next vader, there would be untold amounts of suffering once again. 'Lo and behold, Kylo ren did just that. So, Luke saw that the Jedi Order in their teachings were flawed as the same thing kept repeating itself - especially with his blood line. And worst of all, Luke let his legend of being Jedi Master cloud his judgement. Pride so goes before the fall.
===========How is this relevant to anyone?
If you've been abused by people in your family, you may see parallels with generational trauma. Generational Trauma sees the same abuse suffered again and again, with the next generation doomed to repeat it. Rey walked Luke's same path, but it was Yoda who gave advice to Luke saying "Pass on what you have learned. Strength Mastery, but weakness, folley, failure. Yes, failure most of all. The greatest teacher failure is. Luke, we are what they grow beyond, that is the true burden of all masters."

If not for being a parent, you can take this lesson and see that it's normal to fail. We live in a society where perfection is expected of us, and we shy from failure. This movie speaks out against that.

I *really* think Luke lead a life of which his Father Anakin, and Mother Padme would be proud.

Give this video a shot, you might see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kjEnDj7K30

I got so many responses imao-