Phoebe Joey

Who needed to pressure Europe into forcing Ukraine to make peace talks? Russia
Who would have the strategic advantage in the Winter if Nordstream shut down? Russia
Who was beginning to replace their exports to Europe long before Nordstream got shut down? Russia

Who sabotaged Nordstream? America





see how this makes sense?

Russia sabotaging their own pipeline that costs billions that exports their main resource to their largest customer makes no sense.

>Who would have the strategic advantage in the Winter if Nordstream shut down? Russia

That makes no sense.

>Who was beginning to replace their exports to Europe long before Nordstream got shut down? Russia

Diversifying their customer base doesn't make destroying their largest moneymaker justifiable.

>Who sabotaged Nordstream? America

Yes, the only country who benefits from it's destruction.

1) Europe was already cutting off oil imports from Russia. Even if at the time Europe was Russia's biggest customer, it wouldn't be that way for long. If a pipeline costs a lot to maintain and it will stop being useful soon, it makes sense to shut it down
2) Putting pressure on Europe to stop supplying the war -> (potential) less supplying to Ukraine -> Ukraine has less power -> advantage to Russia. Russia also gains an advantage in diplomacy. At least, this is probably what was expected. It backfired quite a bit.
3) Again, it wouldn't be the largest for long. And even if Europe would continue to be a major supplier, Nordstream wasn't the only pipeline supplying Russian gas to Europe. There's a multitude of them. There's even a few that go to Germany that haven't been blown up yet.
4) America has no major incentive to destroy Russia's gas infrastructure. Europe was already turning away from Russian gas, and so therefore America had a growing market there, which would continue to grow at an exponential rate. Exploding cheap gas pipelines doesn't quite make people want to go for more expensive gas sources like, I don't know, sending it across an entire ocean, and instead get oil from areas like the Middle East.
On the other hand, both actual combatants do actually have a reason to blow it up. Russia's is more diplomatic and Ukraine's is more economic, but they're both reasons nonetheless.

At no point in that political fantasy could you reasonably justify why blowing up nordstream would benefit Russia and be detrimental to the US.

Russia would not sabotage their largest customer. No other gas supplier has the resources to sustain Russia's exports in the short or long term hence why we've seen such a large rise in gas prices from alternate sources such as Norway and Saudi Arabia.

The US benefits in that Russia's economy takes a major blow and US interests and soft power over alliterative states becomes the main supplier to western nations. Cutting Russia off damages the economy of Russia far more than it does us.

Nordstream was the largest gas supplier to Europe and beat out any other combination of sources in both price and ease of access.

Russia has no diplomatic strategy to blow up nordstream as then it loses it's negotiation of gas supplies to Europe.

I'm not saying that Russia would benefit and the US would lose things
I'm saying Russia would trade a bit of their gas exports and the US wouldn't gain nearly enough to justify it. Hell, it might have even been sabotaged by Germany, because f**k logic

You're take on Germany potentially being responsible for norstreams sabotage show how little you understand of Geopolitics. Not to insult you but you have no clue. Nothing you've said makes any sense in both strategy and logistics.

We need Russian gas supplies for life to function. Everything from running your car, heating your home all the way to the manufacture of plastics and powering renewable energy sources like nuclear power plants relies on natural gas and oil.

bro

you do realize I just said that Germany sabotaging it is illogical, right? I could just as easily have said San Marino or Poland. Those would definitely also be illogical.

However, I can see that you're not going to change your mind, so I won't waste any of mine trying to. I give the f**k up.