Uh, the Biden Admin ain't passing anything fiscal now that the Republicans have the House, so I'm not sure 'lost everything' is exactly the most apt description for the Midterms. It wasn't a red wave, that's for sure, but honestly, as an independent conservative I'm happy it worked out this way. We didn't flip the Senate, which sucks, but what did happen is that everything Trump touched failed so miserably that we might finally have blowtorched his status as kingmaker for the GOP. He'll lose the Presidential election again, if he runs, and then hopefully we can move on and find a real party leader who runs on actual moderate platforms rather than the messy culmination of the Tea Party/Obama partisan war that culminated in the nastiness that's been the Trump and Biden administrations.

Just my $0,02 though.

I wouldn’t say he ain’t. All of the election deniers lost which means Trump won’t be stealing another presidency, there will be no new MAGA governing or making laws or overseeing elections so yeah lost everything. Now all we need to do is arrest all of the big lie republicans for sedition.

No, Trump lost big time. I'm saying the GOP is going to be better for it within the next 2-6 years.

Nah man, arresting someone for sedition is a shady way of subverting the Constitution's extremely high standards for treason. I oppose doing that for the same reason I oppose term limits or mental capacity regulations on officeholders; let the people vote in whomever they want to vote.

Remember, as Chuck Schumer himself said on 01/06, "All they have accomplished is to delay democracy for a few hours." That's certainly a riot and exceedingly embarrassing to the extreme but arresting the opposition ain't the way forward. This is one of those situations where you let it de-escalate with time rather than forcibly impose a kneejerk response.

Hey I remember you. Still pretending to be a reasonable moderate. Just voted for Trump because he seemed like a reasonable alternative to those Washington elites😜 those pesky jan6 tourists!😂

I can’t say you are completely wrong about knee jerk reactions. That is what you are saying, but what I’m hearing you say, is it was no big deal, give it time, so everyone can forget and then we can replenish our ranks, regroup strike again with full force!

Wow man, I'm trying to be reasonable here. Yes, I voted for Trump, but believe me I did NOT vote for a violent swarming of the Capitol that was an absolute disgrace to this country. I'm done with Trump. Conservative I am, but his 'divide to conquer' strategy is NOT what the country needs and I know the GOP won't survive if it sticks with him.

As far as the rest, let me clarify; anyone who carried a weapon where they weren't allowed to, or struck an officer, or otherwise directly and immediately created a clear and present threat (E.G that one woman who got shot for sticking her face in a hole in the chamber of Congress, regrettably, played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.) should be prosecuted to the reasonable extent of the law. Where I draw the line is the idiotic "Let's arrest anyone who breathed on Congress" or "Let's arrest every politician who expressed vehement and even inappropriate disapproval with losing the most contentious election in decades because they're being crybabies." rhetoric.

I'm exceedingly careful with how I support suppressing freedom of speech and assembly because I know that, as satisfying as it is to slap those I perceive as being unreasonable and idiotic, any support I give automatically gives legitimacy to those who would like to apply similar measures to 'my side'.

That help? I didn't come back here to troll you guys or anything, I just missed the forum. The last thing I want to do is make a bunch of e-enemies needlessly.

I give you a hard time, but I do appreciate the banter. You are entitled to your opinions.

I've always insisted that being a good moderate means you make both sides think you're crazy. Hyperpartisanship irritates me more than anything else, haha. 👉👉