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Purgatory

my brother in christ bring up one moment where purgatory was referenced in the bible?

2 Maccabees 12:41–46, 2 Timothy 1:18, Matthew 12:32, Luke 16:19–16:26, Luke 23:43, 1 Corinthians 3:11–3:15 and Hebrews 12:29

I do not see anything even close to referencing purgatory, let me give you a BLUNT example of why purgatory is catholic nonesense.

The Bible never speaks of a place where one can go to be purified of his sin. Rather, it always speaks of a Person to whom we can go to be purified: Jesus Christ. God tells us that those who refuse to trust Christ to cleanse them from their sins are condemned: Whoever believes in Him avoids condemnation, but whoever does not believe is already condemned for not believing in the name of God's only Son (John 3:18). There are only two choices: Whoever believes in the Son has life eternal. Whoever disobeys the Son will not see life, but must endure the wrath of God (John 3:36; See also Revelation 20:15; Luke 16:19-31, especially verse 26). Anyone who accepts Christ is completely saved: There is no condemnation now for those who are in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1). Saying that there is no condemnation, certainly eliminates the flames of purgatory.

Another passage which clearly excludes the idea of purgatory is, …their sins and transgressions I will remember no more (Hebrews 10:17). If, as the Bible says, God no longer remembers the sins of those who are in Christ, He does not punish them for these sins. To do so would be saying that Christ had not made full payment for them and that God the Father still remembered them. (See also Romans 5:8-11; Hebrews 10:14-18; Psalm 103:12).

Anyone who does not believe that Christ has completely saved him, has not completely trusted Christ to save him. That is, he does not believe that Christ's sacrifice has paid for all of his sins, and thinks he must pay for some of them himself. However, we are saved when we stop trusting what we can do, and start trusting Christ to save us.

"catholic nonsense"
lol martin luther was the one who edited the bible mf

I am not protestant, f**k luther, I am orthodox

so youre orthodox
but n o t c a t h o l i c
learn a bit of history, orthodox is catholic

tf are you talking about? Orthodoxy is the eastern church that doesn't have vatican. The west wanted vatican, the east didn't aprove, so the church split, the west was the catholics, the east was the orthodox. there is a difference my good man. and the catholics are the ones that did the split. So, according to HISTORY ITSELF, the orthodox church is the original church that christ founded

your religion is legit called eastern orthodox catholic
like it is literally catholic
the roman catholic church is a derivative of the church and is therefore the same church, each sect having digressed from the other over centuries of global change. Neither is the church that existed before.
In conclusion, there is no master Catholic, at least, existent any longer. One is literally just the same but we have a dude who does stuff (i don't like pope francis either okay wed be better off with no pope than this pope).
And, while Orthodox sure ain't Roman Catholics, you're still Catholics.

atleast you are a classic christian my guy

Pope, vatican, and gay are not = orthodoxy

In case you didn't notice, i said ≈, not =.

let me rephrase, the catholics are not = orthodoxy.

Catholicism ≈ orthodoxy.

where in the world or you getting eastern othrodox catholic, it is just eastern orthodox. I agree with you that pope francis can go suck one for all I care. also, no, it cannot be the same church, they have very different rules and cannot be a derivative.

contradiction spotted
"...the catholics are the ones that did the split... the orthodox church is the original church"
"[Catholicism] cannot be a derivative."

ok I will agree there

and wdym flames of purgatory
Purgatory is misunderstood as "we haven't decided yet"
Purgatory is a realm in which individuals are not condemned, but granted a chance to make up for venial sins that have gone without repentance.

You cannot repent after the first life, it is as simple as that!

"First life"?
buddhist

buddhist, I think buddism is shit. You have two lives, your life on earth, then your eternal life, either in heaven or hell.

Hell
It’s the most basic answer

But they enjoy pain

Your point? Hell is hell. And hell is punishment not eternal pain. Will they suffer? Yes. That’ll pay their dues in hell

The bible literally says there's eternal pain in hell

Yeah but regardless that’s where they’ll go. He doesn’t care if they find pleasure in that they’ll go to hell regardless

I just remembered this video https://youtu.be/awREA-GyzuA

Who?

People with pain kink

You put them in hell

But they like torture

But they don't have a body in hell only a soul

Nvm I remembered this video https://youtu.be/awREA-GyzuA