Okay mods, I get it, sometimes it is dangerous to have everyone with owner. But hear me out.

It won't be dangerous if you KNOW that the owner can be trusted. I mean, they're owner for a reason. For example, MSMG, I think we're pretty careful about who's owner and who's mod. I think people can be trusted to have more than 5 owners.

How trustworthy are the owners really when this happens every couple weeks and MSMG is the only stream it happens in?

"every couple weeks"
last time it happened was in September which is way more than a couple weeks
kinda proves global mods (that are supposed to be patient asf) aren't usually

Besides the much too frequent unmodding of everyone, it happens every few months at least, the other issues that have come up are the changing of the stream description to harassment or other TOS breaking phrases, the banning of people for the lulz. It's not just the regular Arkuum that happens it's other owner abuses as well

Ah yes
Mod resets
Hell in all honesty
And we don’t throw bans around just for fun
We always have reason. We see just as bad as you do

Even if someone agreed with this update, it would cause problems just to update it. There would be arguments over who gets to keep their owners, and if the wrong owners were chosen then the stream would be worse than it was before. Streams that currently have more than 5 owners typically have more users, and therefore losing these streams would majorly decrease the popularity of this site. I suggest that if you really want to improve imgflip you could work on things such as pinning comments.

we have our reasons for doing things. we were running just fine with 10 owners. we got into some fights and if someone impulse bans or something it usually gets fixed

But it hasn't happened in months

Global mods: *ignores the blatant fact that mod wipe hasn't happened in 2 years but puts a limit anyway because one stream had an issue one time*

Also global mods when they don't step in about potential pedophiles, doxxers, racists, anti-lgbtq speech. But see you saying they're stupid;

Alright Kate you are right, msmg is Imgflip’s cesspool. But it’s our cesspool and one we know how to run. Do we have problems? Yep. A lot of side streams that aren’t fun do also. So here’s what I propose, you let us have our cesspool back with as many owners as we see fit, because we know who we have as owners. Drama will happen but we’ll get it handled. We are msmg, we are a cesspool, but we’re stronger when the people who have been in it forever are the ones making the decisions

It's not my decision to make.

Well, thanks for listening anyhow

I'm always here for you, though I might not be able to fulfill all your requests, I want everyone to be free to speak their mind respectfully.

And that, that right there is what we need more of on this site

Happens more like every few days, and to be honest, I'm sick and f**king tired of it.

The last incident didn't happen a couple of weeks ago...that was a few months ago before this one...

what ''every couple weeks''

when does this happen every couple weeks??

EXACTLY

careful what you ask for

Bruh, it would be much better to add head owners that have power over other owners and cannot be removed

That's an idea. Different levels of mod or owner with different color M's

Sometimes you might want to let someone edit the stream desc, but don’t exactly feel like they can trust the person to not delete you from owner

for n owner what if you din an o

*says that with a green M*

Can we get the creator role in streams? I’ve posted about it multiple times in this stream.

I like that idea. I often wonder myself who the original owners are in some streams. Maybe a special icon or M.

I was thinking a C
For Creator

We should also be able to have more than one color in a custom icon and more colors like the colors of the rainbow. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, black.

/j

i think a "creator" rank would be cool
there may not have to be anything different, but it would be a nice touch to streams

Ok I would accept that update

that's a worse idea
what if a head owner gets hacked

It wouldn’t be any different from one owner getting hacked and removing every other owner, having multiple owners doesn’t protect against hacking it makes it easier

It would be like the creator of the stream

Yes. I agree with this. And what Kate said.

I’ve been thinking we need a rank with power over owners for a while tbh

well, global mods kinda do that… I think. But yeah, we need a rank over owner. Creators should have highest power and not be able to be changed.

I’m thinking higher power within stream but yeah

the cant reomve thing might be exploited

It wouldn’t be any different from one owner getting hacked and removing every other owner, having multiple owners doesn’t protect against hacking it makes it easier

ig ur right

You can just choose someone with a good password who can be trusted, then with MSMG politics they can be a normal owner

It would be like the creator of the stream

whatever sauce said

It would be like the creator of the stream

It wouldn’t be any different from one owner getting hacked and removing every other owner, having multiple owners doesn’t protect against hacking it makes it easier

ooh great idea

^^

Guys can we not argue about that?!

cry some more

Look just accept it.

nah
bcuz that’d be boring

I don't think it's boring, but they know it's an abusive and chaotic against using permissions on mod privileges.

LoL that 😈 face doe >:)

pony cringe

Then find against Imgflip-diss

furry doesn't equal zoophile
get your facts right

cope

but are you sure

yes
i would know
i'm a furry myself...

I need ur help

Um, okay?

We’ve tried that. Doesn’t work

You couldn't have tried that unless you where an Imgflip developer.
The point of the head owner is that it is impossible to remove them as a normal owner
The same way a mod can't remove an owner

Not exactly that. We tried the system under spire’s idea. We went down to only 5 owners/mods total and nobody liked it. We have attempted to change msmg before

Yeah because people want their images approved
Mods can’t cause arkum events, why the crab do you have a 5 owner AND mod limit

We don’t anymore
And it happened because Spire doesn’t think things through

Not what I was suggesting anyways

Yeah I get what you’re saying and it isn’t a bad idea either I just know people would freak out when they see their mod is gone

It wouldn’t get rid of anyone’s mod or owner
Just one or two people will have head owner

Ok
I like that idea actually
Thank you for elaborating