A recipe for disaster

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Nazis SHOULD be oppressed. I don't think they're being oppressed enough.

See you say that now, but what happens when Nazis co-opt the ideology?
Would you even be able to tell the difference?

Yes, I would. Nazis are very clear and not particularly flexible about their blood-and-soil hypernationalistic militaristic ultraconservativism. You can't really miss it.

You're assuming they aren't flexible and looking out for one particular set of behaviors. Recipe for disaster.

They're not. Modern Nazis have sanitized their message on social media to some degree but make no mistake, their root political philosophy has been largely static for a hundred years.

I suppose if that’s your definition of “conservative” then yes.

...iiiiiiit's in the name. There's something you want to conserve.

And there’s nothing you wish to conserve?

There’s nothing conservative about us. But you’re otherwise spot on.

You're literally always banging on about how great your respective nation(s) used to be. If that's not the fundamental definition of conservativism, then you need a new dictionary.

What you mean is that you consider yourselves radical, but you're radical in a way that seeks to restore some old values that society has long since abandoned and to put them on steroids.

America carried the seeds of its own subversion from the start. I have no desire to return to the past. I am unsure where you get that idea.
To be sure there are traditional values I share with men of the past, and I hold the achievements of my race in high regard, but my focus is the future. I don’t wish to return to the past - not even 1930s Germany.
How often have you REALLY discussed such things with an ACTUAL Nazi?

I sure have, and I'm not particularly interested in discussing this in depth with you, and you're not ACTUALLY saying that I'm wrong here. I think you're trying to distance yourself from the general connotations of the word "conservative" (and there is a valid discussion to unpack in that) but that doesn't mean it's the wrong word to use, especially the way you phrased it - there's NOTHING conservative about you - you've already slipped that's not actually true, haven't you?

I suppose we need a working definition of “conservative”. You seem to be treating it quite vaguely and in a way which has nothing to do with these American cuckservatives you spar with.

We don't need ANYTHING. I don't NEED to have a conversation with you. I don't need you to weigh in on this. I hope everything about you fades out of our existence entirely.

That’s cute, cupcake. And aside from your hatred of me, devoid utterly of Truth.

but that's the problem, this ideology has given them a blueprint. All they have to do is parrot and walk in lockstep and slowly subvert it.

I don't think you're listening to the words I'm writing.

I am... I'm just trying to understand. Call it a rant of ideas.

Oh, I always do.

There’s nothing new about them. It’s standard Marxist subversion without the class/economy trappings: straight up Bolshevism.

So it's not that they want communism, it's just that they hate capitalism...But want the benefits of both? But only they get to decide who's allowed to engage in capitalism? So it's fascism? lol

So what's their plan when it fails? Gaslight the population like they are doing now?

I’m not sure. Honestly I often feel like they don’t have a plan B; pretty sure they are just arrogant enough to believe they will win.
On the other hand, they have had a pretty good track record with this if you keep in mind that a healthy Western civilization surviving into the future is not their aim. They WANT it all to come undone.

Okay, narrow down the definition. I get they are not communists, only using it as a shield and I also get they are using minorities as a shield. I also get they want to be in positions of power, want other people doing the work for them and will go out of their way to destroy an individual. How would you define them?

Not sure what you are asking; I was stating they are not new.

ohhh okay.