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The Nazis confuse me, claiming to be the National Socialist Party but use fascism.

The Nazis confuse me, claiming to be the National Socialist Party but use fascism. | image tagged in political compass chart | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Hitler was a socialist, before he was a national socialist, before he was a jackbooted military dictator.
Nazism and communism are just two sides of the same crooked coin: collectivism.
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Nope. Hitler was never a centrist.
People just don't understand the political spectrum.
Here's a chart. Politics is a circle not a line.
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Yeah, I know Hitler is that zone. Okay. I just don't get why he used a Leftist Party and made it rightist.
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Because there's no difference. If you go far enough right you're gonna be left and vice versa.
1 up, 3y
Fair enough.
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Nazis and fascists tend to be right at the top of the authoritarian scale, but closer to the centre of the economic scale. I'd personally argue that nazis lean more to the left since they're socialist.
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That's what's wrong with the political compass

And it's pretty complicated, cause Hitler wasn't actually fascist, that was Benito Mussolini and Italian national socialism. Nazism, which was Hitler's brand of national socialism, is a lot worse than fascism, because unlike fascism, Nazism's ideology was that there was a superior race (aryan, blond hair, blue eyes). This obviously led to the holocaust because Hitler got people afraid of the Jews, claiming that they were basically just parasites taking advantage of the aryan race.
Subtle stuff, but it really annoys me whenever people incorrectly use the word fascist, which is literally like 99.99% of the time.
And they're both left wing, being socialist and all.
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Yeah.

Isn’t Socialism like an equality zone like Communism but slightly better?
1 up, 3y
Welllll, that's also complicated

Communism in it's pure form has, to the best of my knowledge, never been tried outside of a small commune. In pure communism, as far as I understand, there's no money, and people are just supposed to take what they need and put their work in. I don't know how if totalitarianism is a necessary part of the doctrine. Obviously, people are greedy, so this system couldn't exist without strict government controls on who gets what, or unless people became devoid of all evil.

Socialism is actually what the Soviet Union was (Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics), and it involves government control of everything, and regulation of the economy and all, but there's still money, and people still sort of have private property (in the sense that people can buy things and own them instead of it being owned by the collective, but the government can of course take what they want in the end, so ownership can be kinda shaky).

I would still call the Soviets communists though, because that's what the actual party in control was, and I believe it was Lenin that said "Communism is the goal of socialism" or something. The Soviet Union used communist ideology (such as communism will spread to every part of the world), but their economic system was socialist. Nazi Germany used Nazi ideology, but their economic system was also socialist. And since Nazism really REALLY hates communism (they saw it and capitalism as Jewish plots to take over the world) they wanted to go kill communism, even though, in essence, it was the same economic system.

So..... there ya have it
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