All whine and no bite.

The South will fall again :-)

They tried to burn down a Democrat Headquarters in Texas.. And failed.

I'm sure that one guy's failure means none of them will ever hatch any plans that could work.

Gad damnit mirror, let me laugh at their stupidity!

Well...yeah. At any given moment, all fifteen of them are probably too drunk to beat me in a math quiz.

(I suck at math.)

15? Think your number is off

Hyperbole. The point is that the number of people on the extreme right actually willing to resort to violence and terrorism is hilariously small. They definitely don't have a chance of affecting the government.

https://theconversation.com/21-million-americans-say-biden-is-illegitimate-and-trump-should-be-restored-by-violence-survey-finds-168359

Dude that "survey" only questioned 1000 people. Then it compared those answers to its full sample set...of only 40,000 people. You're condemning 21 million people based off the answers of 1000. Holy smokes. I know that's how polls work, but at the same time that's exactly why polls are almost never right.

The only bit of USEFUL information I found in that link was the think tank breakdown of the attackers:
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/84fe30d503c742a692d05146d420c87f

Notice how representative Texas, California, and Florida were. Notice also how Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, Wyoming, and other majority conservative states were nonfactors. You know what that tells me? The close battle between conservatives and liberals in Texas and Florida has whipped up emotions on both sides there. This means the political fringe is angry. THAT means they're exceedingly likely to act upon their emotions.

Don't believe me? Prove I'm wrong. Because if just being hardline conservative should equate to supporting Trump, then Montana and co. should have had HEAVY representation. They're all solidly red and proud of it. I've seen firsthand the level of support conservative ideals have in all of them. And yet they didn't contribute in a statistically significant way to the attack...interesting...

So again, just being conservative and owning a gun cannot equate to supporting armed insurrection. What we saw on 01/06 is that the voting base in politically divided states tends to be far more emotional. This emboldens the fringe. The fringe commits horrible acts like 01/06 when the man they want to see President uses incendiary rhetoric.

In conclusion then, sleep easy at night. There won't be any civil war. You're deluding yourself if you think there will be.

You sound a little defensive. I'm condemning 21 million people? Which ones?

I don't assume the attackers from California are liberal, nor do I assume the attackers from Texas and Florida are conservative. I do assume they're all trump cultists, but I don't equate being conservative, hardline or not, with supporting trump. In fact, I believe it's impossible to be a principled conservative and to support trump. But I'd bet most of them were Republicans.

That's right, Republicans who are not really conservatives, but reactionaries, fascists, and/or white supremacists.

I also didn't say anything about owning a gun, seeing as how I own a couple myself. You seem to be equating a lot of things I did not, or assuming I equate them. You might want to try less black and white thinking about the one-dimensional left/right political spectrum.

Write down the time and place you predicted there will be no second civil war. That said, I expect more terrorism and coup attempts to get trump back in power. And I bet few of them will be liberals or Democrats.

If you don't agree with half of what the article itself says, why'd you link it? I don't know you personally, so I'm forced to assume you agree with the article entirely since you didn't specify otherwise.

Not trying to be defensive. I'm trying to take you at the value of the sources you provide.

I've said it repeatedly over the last few years and I'll stand by it; so long as the courts are allowed to operate without interference and as the elections are transparently monitored and canvased/checked (as happened this time) there will be no civil war in the United States. There might be isolated wackjobs doing wackjob things, but that will not become the norm.

They almost did....

No they didn't. There was no chance for them to in any way influence America's governmental makeup. The nation wouldn't just keel over and let a few chumps put someone into office because they managed to get into the Capitol's inner areas.

You said "affecting the government." Hanging VP Pence, Killing Speaker Pelosi, other representatives/senators... That would definitely affect the government and how our country runs as they have killed duly elected members of the people, by the people.

Even if they had managed to get to these people, we don't know that they would have killed them. Even if they did, there is a reason we have processes to replace officials who die, either by rules of succession or simply electing another official.

There was NO WAY ON EARTH Trump could have possibly become President even if he had fully encouraged his crowd to actually attack and take control of the Capitol. They had no resources. They had no legitimacy. There wasn't even the slightest shred of pretext on which one could start a rebellious government, for crying out loud.

At best, AT BEST, 01/06 will become a historical footnote like Shay's Rebellion. That incident though was far more dangerous to the nation than 01/06 was. Ya'll need to just let it go. We're through, Biden is President, Trump is a political pariah to most of the nation, life goes on.

I hope you're right, but I'm not complacent about Al Qaeda either.

We shouldn't be. After they attacked us they forced us to defend ourselves. It's a just war in every sense of the ideal, and since they've sworn to destroy us without provocation we have a compunction to destroy them first.

In short...let loose the drones and special forces of war, haha.

There's no way to tell whether or not they would have been successful. What the previous administration taught us, is that we can have all the laws we want, and people will find a way around them. Regardless of all the systems we had in place, the threat was still very real. Had they got ahold of those electoral ballots, the vote could have been compromised (again.) They could have set a new precedent for violence. Who knows. Trump's always been a political pariah. His following by the country hasn't really changed. Red states are working to make it harder for minorities and the disenfranchised to vote.

I mean hell, look at AZ, that audit by cyber ninjas? Way out of line. If they came up with favor for Trump, you better believe there would be this big huge spectacle calling for Trumps reinstatement and more recounts and votes. 1/6 is not the single event that changes a government, but an ingredient to a much larger recipe. Albeit and important one.

Kill the lawmakers of swing states, get re-elections, get determined Republicans and have mob rule threaten any competing democrat. Boom. You've got authoritarian/terrorist rule.

Dude, the courts would not have bent to allow him in even if the bogus audits somehow changed the result. There. Was. No. Threat.

With everything else he got away with, I'm not convinced.

Here's the bottom line, without the courts, nobody can pull shenanigans in a democracy. When someone tries to mess with the courts, either by packing them or otherwise influencing them, that's ALWAYS a red flag that anti-democratic plans are afoot.

But, even though Trump got to pick tons of judges and justices, not one supports him. So, it's fair to say that even if he somehow had a plan to manipulate them, it's not going to happen.

Ya'll just need to let it go. It's behind us. Let's move on and deal with actual problems.

"Here's the bottom line, without the courts, nobody can pull shenanigans in a democracy. When someone tries to mess with the courts, either by packing them or otherwise influencing them, that's ALWAYS a red flag that anti-democratic plans are afoot."

Senate GOP disagrees, and I'm not convinced on your judges either.

Senate GOP was technically within their rights (if you're referring to the stunt they pulled with Garland and then Barrett).

It cost them a great deal of my respect, but it didn't qualify as a coup. I know you're smart enough to realize I wasn't referring to that, and without any evidence to show that the judges are on Trump's side (HINT: How many of Trump's legal challenges to the election were actually upheld in court? Hmmm), you're just engaging in partisan speculation that really isn't becoming of you.

Nope. Not what I'm referring to.

So if there was no threat, you don't think we should call for prosecution?

I absolutely think anyone who committed a criminal act deserves to be prosecuted. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. But I'm not trapped by this notion that anyone guilty of trying to change the election must have actually had a chance of doing so.