nah

No

ohok

No

how tho

No

Hell no

fr?

Y e e

No

ohok

Fuk n o

ohok

No and no but also sometimes

wdym

I mean we all are bad and mean people sometimes

no lmao

w h a

w H a

h o w t h o

u d o n ' t d o w h t b a d / m e a n p p l d o

i do though
i'm putting my standards a lot lower than the people you're probably thinking of

ur putting y o u r standards lower but a bad/mean person is judged by wht other ppl think.

well yes but no because there's people that are shit people but everyone thinks they're a good person because they manipulate people until everyone's under their control in a sense without knowing it

so ur sayin u manipulate ppl lmao

they can say something was right or something was wrong but in reality it's not as simple they have to decide which one it's closer to with what they know and from their perspective and opinion
true but sometimes people do the wrong thing for the right reason and because of that they might be considered a bad person and the same can be said for the right thing for the wrong reasons and then they're considered a good person

yes that makes sense.
and that's what a moral compass and lawyers are for

you said whatever not agree to disagree

v i c t o r y

oh u take agree to disagree as a victory?

n o x D

lmao whtever lad

true but i am not a good person even if i am not a bad person
ye

u r g o o d e n o u g h l m a o

ye it is
ye

so in conclusion, ppl in this comment section ain't being bribed or whatever 2 say that ur a good person. And me as a nuetral person, i say ur a good person also. Now there is no *set* definition of good when we're talking abt stuff like this but when u look at the facts and ur own judgement it adds up.
Now if someone thinks that they're not a good person cause of whatever that's a different story. But there's also the fact that if a person k n o w s that they're not doing good or whatever that is a sign of there being the capacity of "good" in them. Now its all up to them what they will do w/ that knowing and t h a t makes the actions that ppl judge.

yeah and the people making said decision could've been given false information or bribed and so despite what they would or do actually think someone gets away with something or gets punished under false charges
true

yes true. ok but the thing is we're talking abt wht makes an individual good or bad and this individual is u.
yeah

no xD

exactly XD being manipulative is the core trait of being a bad/mean person
and u don't hv that therefore ur a good person

but even so the side they choose may just agree with t h e i r ideals and maybe not the majority of people's ideals and they can choose the one they think is more in the right but it still doesn't mean that the side they choose in right and the other isn't
true but actions can help determine the general idea of the person in question but also thoughts are more effective how they think and what they think is the most reliable to determine that but we can't know that

But look here's the thing. In the end u hv 2 come 2 a conclusion weather said thing was right or wrong. and In lets say law, that conclusion needs to be reached, but this right or wrong conclusion thing changes depending on the situation. Whts ur tryna get at is hypothetical.
Yes true. and actions are all we can rly judge right we can't read ppls minds. But here's the thing. Good ppl do have bad intentions and bad ppl do hv good intentions. But a *bad* person acts on their bad intentions. It also includes what is being affected w/ those intentions.

than it depends on if they're given the facts or not they might choose a side they agree with more but if they're given the whole truth as well as what led up to that event they'll recognize flaws in both sides
yeah true but there's never anything as simple as this side was right the other was wrong

Yes that's the point of the nuetral party. To recognize flaws in both sides but choose which side is more right cause of logic.
Yes ik that. But we're talking abt the goodness/badness of an individual in general. Wht ur talking abt the the judgment of actions.

what people see is based on perspective
no conflict has a simple right and wrong
no one side is wrong and no one side is right they both have something that complicates it but they're given something as simple as this side was right or this side was wrong but even in the same country two parts idolize different sides and tell the history differently
nothing in life is as simple as black and white and grey there's always more than that

true but what if that perspective is from a totally neutral party?
ok i see where ur going but "there's always more than that" part is just different shades of black, white, and gray.

even if i'm not a bad person it doesn't make me a good person
this is real life shit isn't ever that simple

It actually is that simple. Real life is just complicated black and white colours. As much as it seems like it there really is no grey.
in ur head u may not be a good person but as i said the goodness/badness of a person is measured by what ppl see.

not being manipulative doesn't make me a good person

it actually does