600,000+ Dead Americans, divided as has ever been, chaos, job losses, laughed at by the rest of the world.

He had an innovative new approach to North Korea when we removed denuclearization as a stipulation for peace talks, but then he threw that golden opportunity down the trash with too many concessions in letters/Twitter.

lol, no he was too stupid to know you cant just "Become friends with him" and he will just drop his weapons, Kim made trump look like a fool. A huge propaganda for Kim back home... "Look I make president come to us"

Your opinion is your own.

Perhaps, but one shared by 100's of millions around the world.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/06/13/propaganda-win-for-kim/cpAldFYG1CyWPc6GROo9oJ/story.html

But that's exactly what I'm saying; the basic premise Trump initially adopted, which was that the NK's shouldn't need to denuclearize in order to meet with the U.S, was radical and thawed tensions greatly. The ISSUE (caps for emphasis, not yelling at you), and what the Globe nailed, was that Trump gave away far too much before even getting to the negotiating table.
Accepting that NK wouldn't denuclearize was a concession to reality Washington hadn't yet truly made. Everything else was a concession to fantasy.

was radical and thawed tensions greatly.""" But it did not do that. It just made trump and by extension us, look like chumps. You do not engage bullies, you just dont. He has cozied up to every bully on the planet, it has nothing to with as GW would say 'strategery' but rather a sick admiration and need for approval.

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/two-years-after-the-false-missile-alert-should-hawaii-be-worried-about-a-north-korean-attack/

Maybe you don't remember, but I certainly recall the nation being legitimately worried about NK launching a ballistic missile at us before that summit was announced. Irrational fear, likely, but tangible nonetheless.

Again, this isn't about what he did at the summit. This is about the mere fact that Washington accepted Kim wasn't giving up his nukes. Unless you think you can talk him out of them, or that our sanctions are working, or that we would be better off militarily "restructuring" North Korea, then there is no choice but to meet with Kim and use diplomacy of some sort.

Given talking him out of them is futile, and that most people hate our willingness to apply military solutions to problems abroad, I fail to see how merely agreeing to a summit without stipulating denuclearization was or remains a bad decision.

Biden has already met with Putin and Xi. Sometimes you have to face the bully because punching their lights out would cause more harm than good.

I fail to see how merely agreeing to a summit without stipulating denuclearization was or remains a bad decision."""

Because it made Kim stronger. It gave him confidence that he can continue and we will capitulate, it turned him into an even bigger hero to his people. It gave him legitimacy. There is a reason we (or anyone else not named XI, and even he only did it a long time ago) ever met with him. Trump was/is too stupid to understand that.

Let's say it's 2017: How would you propose we deal with them?