The same argument defending two great evils

Well both are horrible why shouldn't women be allowed to choose what she dose with her body?
And why should blacks have to deal with racism?

It's nobody's right to "choose" to own a slave, and it's nobody's right to "choose" to kill a baby.

I'm not saying they have rights to "Own a slave" i'm saying that women have rights to choose weather they want a baby or not, so while your worried about what women are doing with the baby's you should be worried about the men who raped and got the women pregnant

That is a tiny percentage of pregnancies and you know it. A woman who just irresponsibly had sex cannot even begin to claim the right to kill a baby under the guise of choosing not to have a child. Once a baby is conceived, killing it for any reason other than if it threatens the mother's life is nothing short of murder

Well that is your opinion and i strongly disagree yes you have a point with none safe sex but it is a women's choice weather or not she wants to have a child

She can choose if she wants a kid by choosing whether or not to have sex. After that point, even if she regrets that choice, she can't kill it.

Metaphorically speaking if you where to conceive a child that you did not want would you abort it? And i understand if you say no but sometimes even when practicing unsafe sex people don't mean to have children it happens by chance sometimes

Well, I physically can't conceive a child.

Yes, someone may have sex and not intend to have a child, but she still made the choice to take that chance. Even putting the idea of choice aside, what right does anybody have to end an innocent life?

Hm lets see shall we,Lets say a women is doing the deed and she tell's the man to pull out and he dosen't would it still be the women's fault if she told the man " I don't want children"?

Okay. Thanks for keeping this civil.

your welcome thank you for not getting violent

That's an interesting thought experiment. I'd say it really depends on how the sex started and what they were both doing throughout. I'd say letting the guy penetrate is basically accepting the chance of having children, because realistically, that will end with an exchange of sperm.

What I said before, though, still stands. Whether or not somebody wants children, she do not have the right to take a child's natural right to life away. Something a woman could do if she doesn't want children is take contraceptives that will stop a child from being conceived. the type that kill an already conceived child, though, should be banned.

Okay I understand your point of view and this is just my opinion, but the women has the right to get an abortion even if she was having unsafe sex this dose not mean she dose not have a choice weather or not to still birth the child

Why do you think I want it illegal? I believe every abortion that isn't to spare the mother's life is an act of murder.

Well we will never know if it was to spare the mother's life you could die while giving birth but not know it before hand

That's also very rare, but how would guaranteeing it's death fix anything?

Well let's say "Metaphorically" The mother dose not choose to abort okay? And the mother is not able to provide for the child, years pass on and the child is barely getting by and the mother is never home because she is at work trying to provide for a child she did not want out of good conscious, now the child has a bad life and is now suffering from starvation
So wouldn't it have been better if the mother had an abortion?

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But that's the thing. The mother has rights, but so does the child

And I know this but if she did not want the baby in the first place why would she have to give birth to it?

I'd rather have a hard life than not have one at all.

I see your point but it dose not change my opinion

Why should the child have to accept being killed?

The child dose not simply accept it if it was not born yet so how would it be murder if abortion is legal

But what would give her the right to kill a child? Just as the mother has the rights to life and liberty, so does the child. If you want, i can type up a long explanation of where i believe rights come from and where their limits are.

You can do what you want all i'm saying is that a women has right's to her body and if she beliefs she is doing the right thing then that is her opinion, id rather be aborted then raised by someone who didn't want me in the first place

The odds of that happening are so incredibly low that that argument just can't stand on its own

I know this and i'm trying to make a point, and that point is that the baby could die during birth to did ya ever think of that?