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I'm not saying this is true but it just seems like it is.  I actually haven't counted but perhaps I should. | WHY DOES IT ALWAYS SEEM LIKE THERE ARE MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS WHEN A DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT THAN WHEN A REPUBLICAN IS PRESIDENT? It almost seems like they are planned to cause anti-gun sentiment.  If this is true I would just like to inform every conniving, evil, corrupt Democrat out there, ITS NOT WORKING!  Stop killing our children for your political gain. | image tagged in memes,school shootings,political opportunism | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Are they just covered more?
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I don't know. And this is still just a general perception. I haven't actually counted how many mass shootings or school shootings happen under each president.

It just seemed like there were a lot under Obama, hardly any under Trump and they're starting back up again under Biden.

Perhaps the media was too busy hating on Trump to cover them. They and the left were obsessed with hating Trump. I have never seen anything like that in the 63 years I have been breathing air. Yeah.. I know... I am old fart.

I think I might dig a little deeper into this one day and see if this is more than just my perception. I could very well be entirely wrong.
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Did you hear about the mass shooting in Chicago that happen around the same time as the Muslim and incel mass shootings?
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No I haven't. I do know that Chicago is a very dangerous place to live.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/cnn-director-network-trying-to-help-blm-shootings-lose-a-little-steam-if-suspect-is-not-white
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I heard about this. Thanks for the link to the article. Now I can actually read about it instead of just hearing a little about it.
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And the shooting there don't fit the advocacy journalism addenda so it doesn't make the news.
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Most are mentally ill liberals
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What @the_dangus said.

The right wing may have all of the guns but we are not the ones shooting up schools and everything else. In my research I have found that there are 3 categories of people who like to kill 4 or more people at a time (i.e. the standard definition of a mass shooter).

1) Psychotic leftists.
2) Psychotic people not affiliated with any party or ideology.
3) Muslim terrorists.

2 and 3 are about tied in the percentage that make up most mass shootings.

Number 1 makes up probably about 85% to 90% of all mass shootings in America.

You'll notice that there aren't any people on the right. That's because we don't go on shooting rampages. Not even those suffering with mental illness.
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Corrections: The right-wing does not have all of the guns. And the Right wingers ars the ones shooting up schools, theaters, Churches Etc.

With an occasional one here and there that has no Maga links.
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Do your own research like I have. Ever since Columbine I started paying attention whenever there was a mass shooting. Like I said 85% to 90% of them are committed by leftists. They are psychopathic leftists if that makes you feel any better. They are also mostly on the extreme left as well. The majority of them are also on psychotropic drugs and they were heavily addicted to porn. And 99.999% of the time the guns they used were stolen.

But it only makes sense because the majority of leftists are socialists and socialists do not value the individual, only the collective.

TV and movies portray the exact opposite because they are all leftists. My jaw hits the floor whenever some cop show actually portrays a mass shooter as a leftist. It happens about once a decade or more. It happened recently on an episode of FBI where they were doing an episode taken from the Tennessee car bombing a several months ago. Both TV and reality were accurate in that the guy was a leftist.

BTW I do know that some liberals own guns. I have a nephew who is a liberal and has no problem with guns. He doesn't own any because he moved to Japan to teach and he fell in love and married a Japanese girl. I don't think Japan allows people to own guns. So if he did own a gun it is probably here in the States.

Antifa has been stocking up on guns and some have been going through tactical training preparing for when they leave their safe spaces in Liberallandia and move out to where the conservatives live. When that happens no amount of tactical training in the world is going to help them once they start shooting real Americans who don't put up with Antifa's Nazi antics.
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A lot of this reads like the Unabombers Manifesto. LOL.

Leftist this! Socialist that!

If the majority of shootings are made by the right wing/ conservative / maga type profiles, how are they left wing? That's as dumb as some people who are still trying to argue that the Nazis were Leftist Socialists just because of the Name, National Socialist German Workers party. When in full reality they were Extreme right wing Authoritarian Fascists.
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Dude!!! The unibomber was a radical leftists. How could anything I say sound like him?

Are you kidding me? The call themselves Socialists. Their party platform (which I have read) reads like socialism (and the American Democrat Party platform). Everything they pushed was Socialist. Fascism was born out of Socialism in Italy. But somehow they are on the right? Is it magic or voodoo that puts them there?

You see if the far right and the far left look identical then were is freedom? Where does anarchy fall on that scale. Where did the American founding fathers fall on that scale?

You cannot have a scale where totalitarianism exists at both ends. That is not a scale, however, it is a socialist dream come true.

Here's a little history for you. Mussolini invented Fascism. Fascism is all about Italian Socialism. Mussolini tweaked Socialism and created Fascism in attempt to, as he thought, fix some of the problems with socialism. Stalin saw what he was doing and called Mussolini a right winger as an insult. He didn't think Mussolini was authoritarian enough. BTW Stalin referred to himself as an International Socialist, not a Communist. So if Mussolini's Fascism was not authoritarian enough for Stalin and Stalin accused of Mussolini of being a right winger then moving away from authoritarianism is what? And where is authoritarianism on the scale?

Authoritarianism is ALL on the left. The further left you go the more authoritarian you become. The further right you are the LESS authoritarian you become. The extreme right is anarchy and always has been.

Freedom, individual liberty, is at the right side of the scale. The United States Constitution is at the right side of the scale where government is much smaller and much less restrictive.

What you leftists always fail to see when you are too busy calling the right Fascists and Nazis is that the right (the voters not the politicians) are always screaming about smaller, less intrusive government. YOU CANNOT HAVE FASCISM OR NAZISM IN A SMALL LESS INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT!!!! That is an impossibility.

Maybe one day people on the left will stop being sheep and use their brains.... if their brains haven't atrophied away. And you guys think you're the intellectual ones. WAKE UP!!!!
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P.S. the Unabomber was not leftist when he agreed with a lot of conservative pov, in fact he was disappointed it didn't go far enough.

Also for you to read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/05/right-needs-stop-falsely-claiming-that-nazis-were-socialists/
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No, less government, what you call "Freedom" is actually in reality called ANARCHY also known as Chaos and a Free for all. No society can survive in that anything goes climate.
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The Washington Post, known for being one of the most left leaning newspapers in the country, prints an article by a leftist where he continues to try to distance his type of Socialism from Nazi Socialism.

It is true that the German Socialists and the Nazi's hated each other. Just like the Italian Socialists and Fascists hated each other. In fact it was the Italian Socialists who assassinated Mussolini. And both Nazism and Fascism slightly departed from hardcore Socialism.

But not like this guy says. Private ownership was abolished just like all Socialist regimes. In Italy and I think in Germany people could still own their property but their property and their lives were still controlled by the state. So technically speaking they didn't really own anything.

I wonder if that guy even read Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism". I have. It is overly footnoted because he knew that if you write a book like that the left would have a tantrum. You can clearly see where Goldberg gets his facts. He does what you ALWAYS have to do. Go to the original source material. Leftist "history" books quote other leftist "history" books and some don't have any footnotes or references at all.

I know what anarchy is. I am not promoting anarchy or even voluntaryism. I am a strict Constitutionalist. I believe that the founding fathers got it right but politicians, especially starting with the early 20th century, have totally screwed up what the founding fathers gave us.

I believe in maximum freedom for the individual and minimal power to the city, county, state and especially the federal government. And in case you are wondering... That is the antithesis of Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Authoritarianism and the Democrat party. I left the Republican party almost 10 years ago because they are only about 5 years behind the Democrat party on their march towards authoritarianism. I joined the Constitution party.
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You can complain about the Wapo but it isn't the only one out there. That's just an example. There's about idk 10 pages worth of different links & sources (if you don't like Wapo) That cone up when you a simple Google search like: "Nazi's weren't Socialist"
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Oh I am sure there is tons of stuff out there proving your point. Ever since WWII the left has been trying furiously to distance themselves from the German National Socialists. They have even fabricated that idiotic scale that puts Socialists on the left and National Socialists on the right. That scale makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and yet this is what I was taught in my HS civics class.

So there are probably several articles, books, magazines, documentaries, etc "proving" that National Socialists are not Socialists.

No one implementation of Socialism will completely mirror another. Each dictator looks at running things their own way. Nazism was created out of some discrepancies between what Hitler wanted to do and what the German Socialists thought he should do. Mussolini was assassination because he dared to be a little different than the Italian Socialists.
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This is one of my favorites

https://www.indy100.com/tech/were-the-nazis-socialist-far-right-history-teacher-twitter-7900001
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https://fullfact.org/online/nazis-socialists/

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18283879/nazism-socialism-hitler-gop-brooks-gohmert

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/10/nazi-socialism-rand-paul-strasser-hitler

http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html

(David Klein)
January 2011

For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left, and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea Party which both denounce Obama as a socialist and at the same time portray him visually with a Hitler mustache.  Conservatives have also argued that Jared Loughner -- the shooter of  U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords -- was influenced by leftwing ideology because his reading list included both Das Kapital by Karl Marx and Hitler's Mein Kampf (without mentioning another book on his list, We the Living, by Ayn Rand).
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One of the things that makes it so easy for modern socialist "historians" is that there is no codified definition of socialism. Marx created his theory based on socialism but he called it Communism. So it is real easy for a socialist to say that country X was communist and not socialist.

However, there are some commonalities between all socialist movements. Government control of business and the economy, no private property rights, all labor is performed to support the collective (or so they say). Although not considered socialism, eugenics has most of the time gone hand in hand with a socialist nation. It fits completely within the socialist framework because both place a value on the existence of the individual.

To say that Nazism did not contain those commonalities is just flat out wrong. I don't care how many liberals or leftists want to try to push Nazism to the right, it just does not belong on the right under any circumstance whatsoever. Especially when Nazism is based on all of the commonalities of all socialist regimes.

There is absolute nothing both in the letter or spirit of the US Constitution that has any resemblance to Nazism. Nazism all power was held by Hitler. In the Constitution all power is held by the individual. The law governs both the government and the people but the law, aside for common law, is decided by the people. Nothing like that exists in Nazism.

The right is all about "conserving" the Constitution and by doing so we want to preserve all of the rights and freedoms that were endowed by their Creator. There are no individual rights or freedoms in Nazism.

So every single leftist who says that Nazism is a right wing ideology is a blithering idiot. They just do not know what they are talking about even though that idiotic idea has been pushed on this country ever since just before WWII.

Then if you go to the right of the conservatives you get libertarians. They want even fewer laws. To the right of libertarians are voluntaryists. Voluntaryists are anarchists who believe that groups can form and voluntarily govern their community.

Democrats, however, demand laws for everything. They want to control people's behavior and thoughts. That is a lot more like Nazis than anything on the right.
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"If the majority of shootings are made by the right wing/ conservative / maga type profiles, how are they left wing? " Because they are not right wing/conservative/maga types. You're using your own position as proof your position is right without check the base data.
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Uh huh Suuuuure lol.
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Fallacy of the Lonely Fact.
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I'm going with the facts, pure and simple.
You can spin it anyway you want, try to downplay it anyway you want, try to excuse it anyway you want, try to deflect it anyway you want. It doesn't change the bottom line.
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So you're going to go with the hasty generalization, rather than a representative analysis of mass shooters so you can get the answer you want instead of the truth.
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Except for the fact that they're mostly drumpf Maga supporters.
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WHY DOES IT ALWAYS SEEM LIKE THERE ARE MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS WHEN A DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT THAN WHEN A REPUBLICAN IS PRESIDENT? It almost seems like they are planned to cause anti-gun sentiment. If this is true I would just like to inform every conniving, evil, corrupt Democrat out there, ITS NOT WORKING! Stop killing our children for your political gain.