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The LGBTQ+ community is accepted- but not quite entirely.
The LGBTQ+ behavior and lifestyle is not condoned by Christianity, but the people are not denied. People experiencing homosexual feelings, lesbian feelings, and the like are called to live a chaste life, whereas other LGBTQ+ individuals are accepted with little reservation. We are all God's children, after all.
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Disguise your homophobia with saying you "dont approve their lifestyle"

Its not a lifestyle. They are born that way, but one mistranslated part of scripture in the Bible says its wrong so I guess it's wrong then 😜
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It is not wrong to be gay (of course, it isn't right), but instead, it is wrong to engage in homosexual behavior (as in, sexually, such as intercourse). Also, mind you, nobody is born what they are- they, or others, blaze that trail. If you end up working at McD's in your eighties, you can't blame the way you were born for bringing you there- it was the will and work effort that yourself and others failed to raise in you. Of course, the way you were wired at birth is important, but psychological differences are not there at birth. Some way or another it appeared. Someone cannot be born into a sexuality, as when you are born, how can you know about sexuality? You are born pure of heart in every way, and that gets corrupted along the way (not to suggest that homosexuality is corrupt like that, just stating it as part of the metaphor). RuPaul wasn't born and immediately said he wanted to be a drag queen. It happened somewhere along the line. The fact that people change sexuality is testament to that.
Also, believing homosexuality is wrong, but not the people, is not homophobia. I have, many times, been good friends with a gay man. Homophobia, as defined by Oxford Dictionary, is "dislike or prejudice against gay people". Saying that I do not approve of or condone the way they live is not homophobic, but of course, maybe you posted this just to call people of faith homophobic? Who knows? Don't ask someone a question and then judge them on their answer. I told you how we feel about it, and that's how we feel. Faiths have deeply engrained beliefs that are products of their time- just be glad Christians could adapt. In Islam, gay men are disowned, and often slain for bringing dishonor. do you see us doing that? I don't care about who you are, what you are, what you look like, or anything- I will treat and judge all as though they are one in the same.
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Okay well I could say the same about heterosexuality. How do you know you're not sexually immature?? Also the verses that were against gay people were mistranslated and were supposed to say that a man shall not lay with BOY, MAN being an ADULT, BOY being a CHILD. Stop using .00001 part of the Bible just to be against a minority that's not Christain of y'all at all.

Oh and also, if LGBTQ+ is REALLY a sin then it would be forgiven anyway, so you Christains shouldn't be homophobic. Also you are homophobic, being against a community based on love and expressing yourself is messed up.
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The fact that I have maintained friendships with gay people and respected them despite disagreements literally means I am not homophobic. It directly contrasts the meaning of the term. Nobody said you are going to hell for liking men and that homosexuality is unforgivable, though you suggest that we believe it is. Heterosexuality cannot be considered "immature" since it is literally the only way to procreate- it would be considered the peak of sexual maturity if it is the only viable way to have children.
If the bible says it, the bible says it.
"The part against gay people" is how it is. In many situations, the terms "Man" and "Boy" as well as "Woman" and "Girl" are interchangeable. Even if mistranslated, it still shows the fundamental belief that homosexuality is not necessarily right. We aren't against you- we prefer to stay heterosexual and we take more of a position of neutrality.
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Do you think homosexuality is a choice though? Do you think people CHOOSE it??

Also if you admit it is mistranslated then you can never really know because one of the other versions says that in Leviticus 18:20 that you shouldn't have sex with your neighbors, which is an affair.
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There are so so so so many translated versions that you dont have valid proof that it was REALLY meant to say homosexuality is a sin, correct?
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I think I'll stick with the Vatican's opinion. I'd say the pope is pretty storied here.
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Didnt answer my question but whatever
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If you consider yourself Christian, why do you argue that the translations of the bible are incorrect? That could imply that nothing taught in the bible is legitimate.
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There is no explicit statement that "boy" means that the statement refers to pedophilia. Without that evidence, both statements can be interpreted as correct,
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Just stop. I'm done arguing with a homophobe with the same excuses
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The way they live is them loving another person. Being against love is the same as "not condoning" it
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You can call me countless things. But don't call me homophobic. It would also seem that you're out of defenses as well. Christian religions accept gay people but do not condone the way they live. That's that.
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oh hold on
you're not op
huh
anyway, the same arguments apply
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there's a reason you haven't been excommunicated for how you feel. It is because, by and large, we respect you. Your opinions, your personal beliefs, everything. The homophobic issue in the Church is not as big as you feel it is, and it's understandable- all injustices against oneself are magnified. Just remember, we're no enemy.
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If you're not an enemy then you would stand with and support us, but outwardly saying we LGBTQ are wrong is anti-LGBTQ (homophobic, transphobic, all that)
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Not necessarily. What I state is that the Church accepts you. We don't believe everything the way you do, and that is fine with us. We want to accept, but you have to let yourself be accepted.
1 up, 3y
The acts thereof, no.
The people, yes.
We all need Jesus.
2 ups, 3y,
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Honestly, I am a Christian and I am in LGBTQ. I was born that way, it's not a choice and no one can tell me otherwise, but alot of Christains unconditionally hate on the LGBTQ+ and it's sad, but it's true.

I am a Christain who supports LGBTQ, but I cannot speak for others
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oh wow kool
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If you love Jesus you would follow his commands.
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okie
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Yes. We are all sinners, and we are all equally sinful, no matter our sexuality.
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_- ok well thanks for you comment
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I think that many people do accept them, but a lot of these churches aren't true churches. They should not be accepted, though. All kinds of sexual immorality is forbidden in the Bible.
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What about gay asexuals. And the Pope. And wouldn't god have smited us already 🤔
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You can't change your 'sex'. You are born the way you are. Homosexuality is wrong. The Pope is corrupt, but he doesn't represent even many Catholics. And no, God wouldn't have smitten us yet.
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What about intersex people. They are in the lgbtq+
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Hermaphroditic people are almost always more of one sex than the other, but they are different from most people of that sex. That doesn't mean they can live in immorality.
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Give me straight answer not a quote.
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That wasn't a quote.
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Sure sounded like one
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Intersex is biological. The intersex person can choose which gender they would like to be
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Well, maybe some of them are like that, I don't know any personally. But that's not the same as being gay or trans or pan or stuff like that.
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Ahem exuse me while I warm up brb
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The lgbtq+ is discriminated as a entire group upon some religions and while their reasoning be like yours. Claiming genders in the lgbtq+ is not biological. Intersex on the other is biological and in the lgbtq+ intersex is not as rare as some people may think usually as rare as someone with red hair. Intersex people has a different code in their biological sex rather then the normal male or female. Some intersex people can look like male or female entirely despite having a different reproductive system. And other may have privates of both genders. Intersex people can choose their gender and they automatically apply to that. Trans on the other hand is not biological but trans people can take things such as testosterone to adjust themselves to fit to the qualitys of one gender. There are also surgerys that can change and alter the gender of the patient. This is not true for all transgender people because not all of them take these. Sexuality on the other hand is not Able to change. Sexuality stays. A person is not obligated to lie to themself about their sexuality just to please people. Imagine if you lived somewhere. Where everyone was a different religion then you. Everytime you talked about your religion or showed it you would get beat up, discriminated. The people with the same religion of you were murdered for their beliefs. So your scared to be murdered. So you try to apply their religion to yourself but it doesnt work. It just doesnt feel right. It's terrible like torture. You just want to be free with your religion and for everyone to support you no matter what. That's how we feel. We are murdered, tortured, abused, bullied, discriminated, disowned for who we are.

Moral of the story: saying what you said wasnt very cash money of you. So just stop and look at yourself in a mirror and realize that you should love people for who they are unconditionally because they have suffered. We arent different, we are the same. Humans. So treat us like one.
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Trans men and woman are men and woman. Love is love. The pope is the pope. Shut the f**k up
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🔧 if sexual immortality is a sin we'd all be going to f**king hell, since straight people f**k too, and not all gay or straight people have sex, and what about gender queers?? what makes them sinners??
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Sexual immorality isn't intimacy, it's intimacy between unmarried people, homosexuals, etc. And sexual immorality can be forgiven. And gender queer is a sin because God made you one gender. Male or female. Changing or denying that in any way is sinful.
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No.
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That's not true. See my other comment.
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