haha, if they have ev, iv, and levels the same, dedenne would win in the speed(fast fat rat)

The real winner is pokemon logic.

salamence: has tm bulldoze
dedenne: O:

also i think salamence gets earthquake too lol

yea... but earthuake is a tr and they break after one use tho. i dont think anyone uses tms as much as trs

(i meant trs as much as tms lol)

trs are pretty easy to obtain in swsh and dedenne gets dazzling gleam instead of moonblast (which doesn't really matter because it still 2hkos [without evs in sp attack and without a boosting nature in sp attack] and by the time it gets a hit off, it'd already be dead by earthquake but if it has bulldoze instead [of course, if it doesn't have evs and without a boosting nature in attack] it actually doesn't ohko the dedenne.

also dazzling gleam 252 modest dedenne doesn't ohko a salamence without evs except if u get a crit

why did i reply to this

lmfao, what if it had a balloon the first turn lol

then salamence hits the dedenne with a move like rock slide or even crunch 1st, and then ko's the dedenne next turn

rock slide/stone edge*

but wouldnt dedenne then get a 2h ko?. lmfao why are we still discussing this was just a meme

ooh i just realized dedenne gets magnet rise as egg move, which would be useful if the salamence isnt ready

why would you have magnet rise just to avoid a salamence ground type move

but honestly a salamence could ko a dedenne with other moves anyway

then how bout focus sash. salamence wont be able to kil in 1 turn but dedenne is faster so itll do a nice 2h ko

lol the whole point of this meme was, that i found funny that dedenne had just 1 more speed stat than salamence

all of this is 31 ivs in every stat^

also, the fact that dedenne has just one speed stat more than salamence is like a troll from gamefreak lol