the advantages of an adult mind

Great. Now will you tell the other Trump supporters that to act their adult age? They're still crying that Trump will still win somehow.

I think they have the right to bitch and complain at least a few weeks, seeing the left did for 4 straight years. You know?

I admit every politician is 'bad', but he seems off the charts and not even normal 'bad' with many crazy things said and done in plain sight. As an adult how do you accept that?

There are many thing I disagreed with Trump policy wise, However the idea of "America first" caught my attention. After years and years of both republicans and democrats selling out America.. here comes an outsider that played both parts of the political spectrum at different times in his life as a democrat and a republican, basically a true moderate. I grew up in the 90s and seen the effects of Nafta on fabrication and production on American soil, Trump was the first guy to ever approach the subject of trades deals being bad for America and good for foreign countries like China and Mexico. I think the idea he brought to the political table was great - America first - American citizens first - as an American I can see no wrong in that idea. Love him or hate him , he was the only guy in decades that really shined a light on how badly the middle class has been treated by politicians for a long time. That is why i like him.

Sure ok and that is legit argument about what he said was the problem. We say the same stuff in Canada, and I'm sure most people around the world agree that their countries should be run fairly and keep profits and jobs in their own country. However the argument reminds me of an interview before the election, he was asked why he outsources so many of his business pduction and he said because the government allows him to do it, and if he was president he would change the law. However I don't recall any legislative changes on that front, and it appears that him hiring family and business contacts, and promoting his own business while in office is clearly a corrupt move that had no benefits to anyone other than himself. Likewise, him saying/promising stuff is not the same as actually fixing the problem. Far as I can tell it has only gotten worse - source, business contacts in the US.

well no that is not actually true, america started taking in billions of dollars of owed money from china and mexico, tariffs forced China to make major purchases which benefited our farmers greatly, also ending the death tax that was forcing small farms out of business by making them sell their farms in to pay off the taxes after the farm was left to them. ( look up the death tax) Nafta was changed To the USMC - https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/joe-biden-admits-trumps-usmca-is-better-than-nafta/ - btw trade changes would not make major differences right off the bat, it takes about 10 years for them to really make an impact like Nafta crushed industry in 2000s even though it was signed into law in 90s'. prior to the pandemic , small businesses were booming - women opened 70% of those businesses, Black unemployment was at an all time historical low, and black small businesses were on an uptake. America was spinning like a top before we had to shut it all down. If there was no pandemic , Trump would have swept the 2020 election.

Not meant as an derogative...but you are easy to fool. Already forgotten the six bankruptcies which left thousands of Americans in the mire? Over 3,500 lawsuits before he even became POTUS, a good deal of them about the bankruptcies? Leaving the Dems for the sole reason that they weren't willing to support his longtime obsession with becoming a president (and for good reasons...)?

Basically, Trump told you what you wanted to hear and you were that enamored with what you heard that all your critical thinking about his promises went out of the window.
If the trade deals were so bad for the USA, how it was possible for Obama to achieve a healthy economy with steady growth, a record low of unemployment and a reduction in national debt? And how had Trump managed to tear all the achievements down and turned them into an almost constant decline within 9 months while the national debt reached new heights?

No, I had never thought much of Trump before, and that dislike had only deepened during his tenure for the sole reason of his epic ineptness which had not only affected the USA but almost the whole world.

in case you were to young to remember this - https://www.insideedition.com/headlines/14059-iran-releases-humiliating-photos-of-captured-us-sailors-on-their-knees

You have all the right in the world not to like him or even to hate him, I am not going to defend him to you. I don't care about his life prior to being elected President. I knew all that just like the 60 million other voters knew about it. just like the 2.5 million more voters he gained each year he was president. Just so you know , the economy under obama was rancid , household incomes didn't increase nearly at all. His growth was like at .7 % , it was pathetic. Yea, America was struggling under Obama .. that is one of the reasons Trump got elected , because Obama did a shit job, and his foreign policies were tragic at best. Never before did we allow hostel troops to force our navy on their knees with guns pointed at their heads. Obama buried his head in the sand.

...is there something like an USA II in which you are living?

Because all official and verified sources are saying the exact opposite of what you are claiming regarding the US economy under Obama.

If you don't care about the past of an president, why were the likes of you constantly being busy with Obamas past until today?

And, as much as it still hurts you...Hillary won the popular vote. Not that I had ever thought that she was a good choice, but a fraud becoming the POTUS by fraud...every patriot should have been alarmed on the spot. Turns out that the patriots gathered around the Democrats over the last 4 years while the traitors are still making the most absurd claims (like Trump has won the 2020 election).

see below link from forbes over 100 million Americans out of work under Obama https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2014/01/24/after-five-years-of-obamanomics-a-record-100-million-americans-not-working/?sh=66ebbe0d6e12

nothing "hurts" me. I am an adult and politics doesn't define me, so your information doesn't hurt me, your thoughts don't hurt me, other people's opinions don't hurt me. I already know America if full of morons , that voted for a vigina, because they were worried about voting politically correctly . And we will have to agree to disagree about what your definition of a "patriot " is. because obviously mine differs greatly from yours.

btw around 2012 more than 100 million people were out of work under Obama ..and this was without a pandemic shutdown https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2014/01/24/after-five-years-of-obamanomics-a-record-100-million-americans-not-working/?sh=66ebbe0d6e12