William Barr

Great picture of Rudy trying to claim fraud without evidence

No, you're lying about what Barr said.

https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

“We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth,” he said.

However, Barr said earlier that people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said a remedy for many complaints would be a top-down audit by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.

“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.

“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”

Yes everyone is lying except trump.

No Trump lies a lot and so do you. Barr likely told the truth.

Which time did Barr tell the truth? You’re lost in newsmax and quanon propaganda kiddo. You’re not a bad person, you’ve just spent 4 years being lied to. It’ll get better soon

I quoted the AP on this issue lair. But nice Bulverism. 31ecnj.jpg (click to show)

How bout quoting Bill Barr? No evidence of voter fraud. So much easier kiddo

Not what he said liar. I already quoted him saying that fraud existed citing the AP, but you insist on ignoring the facts and lying.

I may be a smart Ass, but I would be the first person to step in if you were being robbed or God forbid, was in an accident. I wouldn’t ask you who you support. As an American I would do my best to help. Don’t let these internet “fun” places be a place to grow hate

Just scroll up and look at what I posted to you

I just post things that I think are funny, sometimes they’re based on facts. Sometimes they’re based on nothing more than busting balls. You noticed I never call you a liar or try to convince you to look up crazy crap on the internet? Because I own my own business, I got one kid in vet school, one kid in the marines, one going into astrophysics, and one with autism. As a liberal with many conservative family and friends, I’m the one that owns the guns. I’m the one that folks look to when there’s a problem.

Look, I agree that there are always small amounts of fraud or questionable crap that happens during every election no matter if it’s , county, state or country. There was no more fraud in 2020 than there was in 2016 or 2012, or 2008. But trump was saying the absolute only way he would lose the 2020 election was if there was massive, widespread fraud. Which there wasn’t. I’m not a Biden fan. But I also don’t believe that any of us average Americans are “bad” or “racists “. I think we all pretty much want the same things but don’t agree on how to get there. I feel that trump supporters have been lied to. They’re not stupid or bad. Just misinformed. And you probably think the same about folks like me. In the end, trump lost and there has been no evidence of the fraud that he claims to be the reason he lost.

"In the end, trump lost and there has been no evidence of the fraud that he claims to be the reason he lost."
Evidence and proof are two separate standards. As it is many bad things have been brought to light by Trump's antifraud effort that need t be dealt with without regard to whether Trump got cheated out of the election. As it is I see resistance to any investigation and rampant lies on both sides of the issue making the issue impossible to settle one way or the other.

We need a though and honest evaluation of our system on many levels and the flaws actually sussed out and fixed.

And now you have found the place we agree , our system has problems that for some reason have never been properly resolved. But I believe that when folks like us, that have a passion to either make fun or just try to put out there what we think is true , is what makes us the greatest place on earth. I will still be on this app in January, maybe with a different user name, because I will be bashing Biden. Just understand, if our country were to be attacked, how quickly would folks like you and me forget about the crazy crap and make sure we had each other’s backs. I know it’s a dramatic statement, but I believe it’s true of the majority of this country. Our countries enemies are drooling at how divided the USA has become. And that’s not just trumps fault. It’s all of our leaders fault. I’ve lost friends because I defended things that trump has done that I felt were good. I’ve lost friends for saying that Biden may be a better option. But as Americans, when things are bad, and our country is under threat, we know how to pull together and get things done.

Can we at least agree on that?