A crybaby all his life

too bad we dont use the popular election

hillary would of actually brought us to war with russia which would have led to nukes being drawn very quickly

Evidence?

1. no fly zone in syria which is controlled by russia, which would be an act of war

2. super super draconian laws regarding russia would have led to alot of tension if not another cold war

Russia already had a no fly zone back in 2016, so we were already at war with russia

Couldn't find a source for the second one

look back at the debates and her speechs you'll see how strict she wanted too be on russia, also cite no fly zone.

You gotta actually cite sources

However, Trump has been tough on Russia, at least tougher than Obama.

i cant cite the speechs or debates for right now as i am on a school computer, but here is the no fly zone https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war

if you think trumps tough you should see what hillary wanted to do

And plus, the whole article is a big hypothetical

how so?

It's a big IF. The no fly zone probably wouldn't have happened.

she was advocateing a ton for it and from the way in general she was talking about russia implied that she would go through with it

You realize how long she was advocating for it? It hasn't been approved for so long; what makes you think that it was going to be approved immediately when she became president?

ideas as extreme as hers hadnt been pitched before. and considering she won the popular vote alot of people either supported or were iggnorant of her ideas, the house or senate could have flipped

Also, ideas as extreme as hers have been pitched before; for example, Trump pitched an idea to build a wall (that was 50 feet high and ten feet deep), and he was going to get Mexico to pay for it all along the Mexico Border.

"ideas as extreme as hers hadnt been pitched before."

Yes, a lot of ideas as extreme as hers have been pitched before.

"the house or senate could have flipped"

Again, just because hose/senate flipped doesn't mean they'll support it. And plus, you need more support than this especially on military issues

examples? and were they from people running for president?

If the house flipped democrat they most likely would, whos support

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/302713-spy-leader-clintons-syria-plan-could-lead-to-confrontation-with

"it 100% would at the very very least lead to alot of tension which would snap with all the anti russia policys, and at the max end with nukes"

I doubt it. Most articles say that it "Could", so not 100%

its pretty obvious it would lead to tension if the policy was created it would 100% cause tension with an extrem possibility of snapping due to all the other policys

Key word: Could

again she in general was very very tough on russia there is no evidence that would provide she wouldent have set up one

"If the house flipped democrat they most likely would, whos support"

The senate wouldn't support it; and also the house and senate were both red in 2016. And yet the senate stayed red in 2018, even when Hillary won the popular vote.

hillary didnt win the presidency if she did it would be more lilkely that the house and senate would have flipped alot of this is just hypothetical, the 33k emails and her millitary policys in general are why i dont like her

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_ted_rall/if_hillary_clinton_had_won_we_d_be_even_worse

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/hillary-clintons-insane-plan-for-a-no-fly-zone.html

And plus, this is only one cherry-picked thing. I doubt that one thing like a no fly zone would lead to war.

it 100% would at the very very least lead to alot of tension which would snap with all the anti russia policys, and at the max end with nukes

"it 100% would at the very very least lead to alot of tension which would snap with all the anti russia policys, and at the max end with nukes"

You only mentioned one.

"implied"

lmao

"again she in general was very very tough on russia there is no evidence that would provide she wouldent have set up one"

She needs the support of many generals in order for that to happen, and as shown on the article you linked many people didn't like it, so there was not a big possibility for that to happen. There's also very little evidence that such a thing would actually pass and become implemented

Also, Trump is also tough on Russia; as his own words "There's never been a president as tough on Russia as I have been"

wdym i only mentioned 1

whats funny?

citation for the need of generals, doesnt change the fact they could easily change their minds if she became president, or she would try to find some kind of loophole to get around the generals

Also, Hillary was part of the "Russian Reset", which was intended to improve US-Russian relations after the Bush presidency. I doubt Hillary was going to Start a war with Russia, as she wanted to have good relationships with them.

"hillary didnt win the presidency if she did it would be more lilkely that the house and senate would have flipped"

Source?

"Clinton's liberal supporters always glossed over her long history of hawkish, arguably far-right, approaches to military matters."

So I suppose you don't like the military of the right?

"Would Hillary's tough talk have triggered World War III with Russia by now? Probably not. "

"But this is a woman whose campaign assigned 12 staffers to compose a tweet; they went through 10 drafts over 10 hours."

This shows that Clinton would probably listen to others, and be able to plan something carefully instead of just rushing headlong into something bad.

Is russia diplomatic right now or during the Trump presidency?

i think so, but i really dont like the proxy wars they are ingaging in with china so i think there should be appropiate action there

Would you agree that being tough on Russia is a good thing?

it really depends on how tough and what policys you employ

Well in general

i dont know what you mean by "general" i think there is a line in the sand, i think we should be diplomatic and only not be when they arent

"again she in general was very very tough on russia there is no evidence that would provide she wouldent have set up one"

So I assume you''re saying being tough on Russia is a bad thing?

again depends on how tough, she was going to be extremely unfair and draconian

"wdym i only mentioned 1"

You only mentioned one, which was the no-fly zone

"citation for the need of generals, doesnt change the fact they could easily change their minds if she became president, or she would try to find some kind of loophole to get around the generals"

If they changed their minds, then it probably means it wasn't that bad of an idea to begin with. Also, I doubt this was an actual policy she wanted to implement: sort of like how Bernie Sanders wants free college; changes this big aren't usually implemented over one presidency and with few support like the ones with Hillary (Because the Generals don't support her). She probably would be tried for the policy, and a judge was probably going to ban that order

oh ok

it doesnt mean that it would neccasarily be good it could just be that they would be scared to lose their jobs or they could flip for the simple reason that she won the presidency also some generals are democrats probably they would bend. what would be the point of bernie if he didnt give people free college? also the amount of times she talked about it and the way she talked about it made it really really obvious she would try it, also a no fly zone doesnt take that many years to create. please cite the generals that didnt like the policy and cite why she would need their opinions or validation. wdym "tried" dont processes like that go through the senate and house?

"again depends on how tough, she was going to be extremely unfair and draconian"

Source

i cant cite any of her speechs because im on a school computer but they are out there, you can probably go onto youtube and look up one, or you could look up an compilation

"they would be scared to lose their jobs"
No, a president alone does not have this power.

"they could flip for the simple reason that she won the presidency also some generals are democrats probably they would bend"

Not really how it works. Generals don't heed to the president because of their political party. They put country over party, not the other way around.

"what would be the point of bernie if he didnt give people free college? "

???

"also the amount of times she talked about it and the way she talked about it made it really really obvious she would try it, also a no fly zone doesnt take that many years to create. "

Clinton wanted a no-fly zone that was a good plan to be established over a period of years, not at once.

"please cite the generals that didnt like the policy and cite why she would need their opinions or validation. "

Generals have the ability to consult with the president in private if they do not like to ruling of the president; and plus, the can choose not to carry out an order.

"wdym "tried" dont processes like that go through the senate and house?"

???

"i cant cite any of her speechs because im on a school computer but they are out there, you can probably go onto youtube and look up one, or you could look up an compilation"

You need a source to verify your claims

"proxy wars they are ingaging in with china "

what?

what do you mean what? do you know what a proxy war is?

the rate that hillary was "going to be" would have guaranteed led to war

Only if she got her way, and yet at that point it's not guaranteed.

So you thought that russia was diplomatic from 2016-2020 and that being tough on russia was bad?

i think that it was diplomatic but it did alot of shady things, i think that being tough but fair on other countrys is what we should do rather than constantly attack them over nothing

"what do you mean what? do you know what a proxy war is?"

Examples

Evidence? I don’t want to challenge you, just understand where you are coming from.