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It’s true | THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN DEHUMANIZING PEOPLE SINCE THE 1800S; FIRST SLAVERY AND NOW ABORTION | image tagged in unborn child,democrat donkey,memes,politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 4y
Don’t forget segregation
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1 up, 4y
Amen.
1 up, 4y,
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as society becomes more advanced, so do its excuses for prejudice
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2 ups, 4y
Amen.
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0 ups, 4y
I mean welfare is a kind of slavery.
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Imagine thinking that a woman wanting to not risk physical damage or death in childbirth and aborting a clump of cells that hasn't even developed sentience yet is equal to slavery.
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2 ups, 4y,
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Imagine thinking that ending the future of a human being just because it looks different than us isn't murder.

If you want to have an intelligent debate on the topic I'm game though.
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Imagine believing that a young girl with dreams and the potential to do great things for humanity has to put those plans on hold possibly forever because she was raped. Yeah that is way better than letting that same girl remove the small cell clump before it even develops sentience

Pull your head out of your ass before you try and debate with me
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No one said she had to raise the kid. If she can't or won't care for it then she should put it up for adoption (that system needs an overhaul as well). That rape is wrong, tragic, and life-changing is undeniable. However murdering the result is not fixing the problem. Two wrongs don't make a right. Before you try saying it's not murder, within milliseconds of conception a unique organism with its own code of human DNA is created. That organism, if allowed to live, will grow up just like we all did, make its own decisions and choices in its own life, and make its own unique impact on the world. If destroying that future isn't murder then nothing is. Do you honestly think, if told it could have been aborted, that person would look back and say, "You know what, I never mattered, and I should have been aborted. " You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in that scenario who says yes.

Rape and incest only account for 1.5% of abortions, so don't go using that as justification for its existence. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/rape-and-incest-account-few-abortions-so-why-all-attention/1211175001/

That means 98.5% of all abortions are results of situations which could have been prevented had either party involved been aware of the ramifications of the poor decisions they were going to make leading up to the conception of that child. We don't fix poor decisions by destroying the product. We fix them by educating people, teaching them some responsibility, and proving all humanly possible aid and comfort to those affected by the vile crimes of rape and incest.

No need to be rude. Cite facts if you want to make this a debate, flinging your opinions and making fringe cases your centerpiece of an argument convinces no one.
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My point wasn't necessarily about raising the child. Pregnancy by itself can take a huge physical and emotional toll on women. Also if a girl is attending a religious school she might be expelled for getting pregnant and that could lead to not being able to go to college and getting higher education.

Yeah your right about fighting over opinions we are not going to change each other's minds. I apologize for being rude we have our different beliefs. I believe a woman can choose if she wants to bear a child and you believe otherwise so truce?
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Apology accepted, flag of truce raised. If I come off as high-intensity it's because I'm very passionate about the subject and protecting the unborn, but I also recognize that it's nigh-impossible to change the mind of someone on the internet.

With that, I respectfully ask that you at least hear out my response to your points. No one can ever claim pregnancy is no big deal, especially one at a young age. Simply banning abortion would not be a comprehensive solution to the problems facing our society. As you correctly point out, a young girl becoming pregnant (certainly in religious, but in any school really) could result in her expulsion, which would both ruin her socially and derail her life in the future. I think it would be a fine idea to mandate that schools not kick out students in such a situation. Provisos should also be made to ensure the young woman could continue education online or privately. Anything to ensure she can keep some semblance of normalcy in her life. I have the utmost sympathy for any woman in that situation, it's something no one should be forced to endure.
My problem then with abortion as a solution is that it's not really a fix. OK, mistakes were made along the way. That's not justification to make one more and destroy the future that was brought into the world, by accident or on purpose. There are so many other options available to society today that don't require an abortion. As I said, measure have to be taken to ensure the mother could have the child in as normal an environment as possible without derailing her life. After birth, if she wishes, that child can be put up for adoption. There are thousands of couples looking to adopt a child, but as I said, the system needs an overhaul. Adopting is a financial and legal nightmare for many, and that leads both to unadopted (and subsequently abused) children and couples who can't adopt.
As an alternative measure, we are approaching the technological level that will allow us to transfer the developing child from the uterus to an 'artificial womb'. Should the technology be proven safe it would allow us to quickly transfer the fetus from the mother to the artificial womb, sparing her the potential ramifications (physical and emotional) of an unwanted pregnancy and preserving the life of the child. Here's a neat article that elucidates as to where we are now with it:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/03/190326105650.htm
[to be continued]
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Finally, I should note that if the life of the mother is in doubt then it is fully permissible to undertake medical procedures intended to save the mother and child, but could very well result in the death of the child. The baby does have a right to life, that point I will never cede, but we're all equal. It's a tough situation, but a very rare one.

In summary, I oppose abortion, but recognize that simply ending it would not fix the issue...we need comprehensive solutions on a myriad of levels socially, financially, and individually, if we're going to move forward. That's my spiel, thanks for reading and being respectful. I sincerely appreciate it.
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