Herd immunity is not a strategy

thats socialism 4 ya

So, on one hand, you defend Trump for saying he saved 2.2 million lives by the measures he took. Which, he didn't take any action, those were all on the state level.

That being said, if no actions were taken, 2.2 million souls would have lost their lives in the first wave (presumably to his model). In this he's been very successful with how he has handled the pandemic.

Now, on the other hand, here you're saying that doing nothing is a successful strategy?

Lol.

I don't say those things at all, you're fighting with your own judgemental ghosts

This is the argument made by Trump and the third right er. I mean the right-wing.

I don't know who said it, it just makes sense to me.
Many people make very negative stories around herd immunity, with great certainty that sounds like nonense to em. For example, with a good first line treatment, no one dies and herd immunity is also the end result. What's the problem of that?

The problem is that there is a good portion of the American population that suffers from the conditions that complicate the virus and substantially increase your risk of requiring ICU or a ventilator and in most of those cases, death.
Such conditions are:
Smoking
Hyper tension
Being overweight
Cardiovascular disorders
Pulmonary disorders
Immuno deficiency disords.

Some of these can overlap for one person, but not all the time. This isn't even all of the conditions that exacerbate COVID, it's just a few. Herd immunity is something you do for something like H1N1 where the lethality is low (.0001%) But with COVID, the lethality is 4%. Out of ALL cases which had a result (recovery or death.) This lethality does not calculate the lethality for those with underlying conditions. The lethality for those people is around 80% give or take. Age also plays a factor in that statistic. A lot of people in America have one of those issues listed above. Doing herd immunity would be nothing short of a travesty. If it was thought that this was a good idea, it would've been advised by now.

Your lethality numbers are way off. cdc mentiones these:
0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054

With a good first line treatment, also the ones with a condition survive. See
hcqmeta.com
c19study.com

The reason why the 0-49 bracket is most low is because most people don't start suffering from more than one of these typically if they're healthy.

However, of those who have caught it, they are at much higher risk to die from it than not. Not everyone has that genetic lottery to be on the safe side. where they don't have to worry about it. You can be 10 years old and suffer from a lot of these things. When I was a kid, I had cardiovascular disease, had asthma and I was on the Soccer Team and Baseball team. I've always been in shape, but I just have a bad lottery on genetic disorders. Lots of other people do. What we also have to consider as a possibility, is that there are those who didn't take this virus seriously, or practiced poor safety techniques.

The rest of us, we've been stuck in a house since March because we know that we're at higher risk. I now take a medicine which suppresses my immune system. So, let's play COVID BINGO - Asthma, Cardio Vascular Disease, Used to smoke, Suffered pneumonia last year, whenever I get the cold I end up getting bronchitis, immuno suppressed.

Oh and this is hilarious, as if shit couldn't get weirder. Even though I don't have Hepatitis, basic blood tests will always flag me as positive, but a more thorough blood test will show negative. I'm expecting my second child with my wife and she tests negative. So like, wtf? lol.

At the end of the day, you don't need to even combine all of those. Those with asthma/respiratory problems are likely to be at the highest risk. Followed by cardiovascular. The other part about this herd immunity, not everybody (even if they aren't at risk) wants to risk dying from this virus. Even if it's low, it's still higher than the flu. Those that survive still suffer chronic issues as a result of COVID. Who wants to chance that? That's like saying "Let's play Russian Roulette with a 20-shot revolver." (I know, no such thing really exists... or do those pirate ones count?)

these are numbers from cdc as well?
Still these are without early treatment, and with comorbidities this becomes even more important. In your case I recommend looking into budesonide: budesonideworks.com lists some us doctors using it.
The highwire had a long interview with dr Bartlett last week (or 2 weeks ago, plz check)
Goodluck

The Case Study cited in that is only done with two patients. I would only use this if I caught COVID and was dying. I wouldn't trust this information as a reliable treatment for COVID. ;The study itself... Is written very unprofessionally. It reeks of snake oil.