yes

I’ll choose a good atheist over a God-fearing Christian every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Do you know why?

An atheist who is a good person is that way for the sake of being good, not because they’re scared of being spanked by their mythical sky-daddy.

An atheist does the right thing BECAUSE it’s the right thing, not because they’re told it’s the right thing.

Yeah try to do the same thing with Jews or Muslims, it’s not just Christians

ok i'm christian so i'm sorta offended

Offended by the truth

There are plenty of decent Christians. I have some very nice Christian friends

While there are many Christians who use their religions as an excuse to be hateful and stuck in their ways, there are many who don’t and it is unfair to label everyone within that religion the same.

thats because atheists dont stand for anything

what i mean is they arent as devout to anything compared to christians or other religious people

a huge diffrence between dieing for an idea and dieing for your family anyone with a brain and heart would do that

Well, is buddhism a religion? Most buddhists do not worship gods. Yes, they look up to the buddha, but in their beliefs he is not necessarily a god.

maybe not a god but a large connection to the gods/ a prophet who is super human

"yeah i just added it on you dumbass also that wasnt my definition it was merriam websters. also im just clarifying further what my definition actually is"

clearly then it must not be widely accepted if merriam webster's definition does not include it

again i was just adding in a f**king observation, also just because one definition doesent have it doesent mean its wrong

It would be great if you could find a source that has a similar definition to yours

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

its my own definition of religion i dont know why you are so angsty about it considiring it follows all the laws of religion

what kind of point are you even trying to make

Not really, doesn't include some parts regarding heaven and hell and right path wrong path. Also, it lists buddhism as a religion

i didnt say IT HAD TO YOU IDIOT i said usally thats what happens USALLY.

by diffrent definitions buhddisim is not a religion some scholars beleive this some beleive that over all its up to people to decide what definition of religion to use the oxford language dictionary says "religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." merriam webster says "the service and worship of God or the supernatural"

there are multiple definitions of religion

Bruh he just left

who?

You keep changing your definiton and adding things I need a final one

i just made it, i made my definition once and since it was wayyy too hard for you to understand i remade it

i have made 2 definitions that i beleive in

now im going to sleep and miss me with that "wElP i GuEss i Won The ArGuMEnt"

So they just need to believe in a person with supernatural power? Or does it have to be a person?

i actually did more research and most experts dont call Buddhism a religion but rather a way of life like the dao

And what differentiates the two?

a way of life is simply following directions from a script or spiritual leader without beleiveing in a god or god driven creation of the universe

by diffrent definitions buhddisim is not a religion some scholars beleive this some beleive that over all its up to people to decide what definition of religion to use the oxford language dictionary says "religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." merriam webster says "the service and worship of God or the supernatural"

so does there need to be a god in religion, or is any superhuman controlling power constitute as religion

again there are diffrent definitions whatever one you use will vary diffrent religions as being invalidated or validated

i already told you what i beleive, stop bothering me with this nonsense

Heres some questions to think about:

Atheism is the belief that no god exists. An atheist could hold the same values as a theist, but the only difference would be is that one believes in a god. Does that make one "better" than the other? What's the point of religion? Are atheists immoral? What are some effects of religion?

they need to believe in a god or some kind of superhuman entity that created the universe

I'm just asking about your beliefs

i already told you mine and you disputed them

That's not the definition you gave me though.There was no mention of something that "created the universe"

atheists dont beleive in god they dont worship a superhuman controlling power they arent a religion

it dosent matter

which fits under the definiton

whats your final definition of religion then

a religion is people worshiping a god and doing whatever that god says to make their lives better in some way.

absolutly final cut and dry easy to read for speds definition

So a religion is just a way of life with god?

yes but the way of life must tie into that god and usally some kind of heaven and hell

Not necessarily, I believe that is a specific category of religion, which is dualism

no it is not. heaven and hell is not dualist as long as there arent 2 seperate entitys ruling over them

And yet.. in your earlier definition of religion, it did not include this specification.

yeah i just added it on you dumbass also that wasnt my definition it was merriam websters. also im just clarifying further what my definition actually is

what is all this gotcha bullshit

not all religions need to have it they usally just do.

no they dont

How about the religions with reincarnation?

what about it?

also you dont have to include the heaven and hell part it usally is just included if there is a way of life, it serves as encouragement to go to the "good path"

Do all religions need to have this?

or discouragment to go to the bad path

or gods

family Friends country religion values

again you dont have a religion

well, define religion

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

“I am willing to die for many of those things” they said many, not all.

Atheism, by law, is a religion, or at least serves the function of one regarding the first amendment.

atheism is the religionof no religion? doesent really make sense

oh and political views

i agree but when i say devout i mean willing to literally die for

country sure. but family is not an idea

and i mean country isnt an idea now that i think about it

yes because religion is not a physical thing and christians jews and muslims are willing to die for it

if you cant tell what my point is then there is no Point to this convo

Also, what point are you trying to make

idk im f**king countering all this merry go round bullshit

i dont have any point anymore, thats your only talent making a conversation so off topic it becomes unbareable to continue

tell me an atheist that would die over some scientific topic

Let it be...I think that you and QWERTY gave that lock_stock_nut the coup de grace at the beginning of this, and he/she won't stop unless you either give in or simply stop continuing.

well what would they sacrifice themselves for that isnt material

what values are they?

just because atheists say it doesn't mean they would do it

Christians do die for their beliefs

never heard of an atheist dieing for their "beliefs" or others

not all but some do

name liget ONE atheist who died for their beliefs of no god

Why would a Christen want to die for their beliefs? Just give me one scenario where a Christian would die for their beliefs and their beliefs only?

how do you know

"Christians do die for their beliefs"

All Christians?

would they die for those things?

“None of those have been at threat for a SUPER long time.”
Depends on how long you consider a “SUPER long time” equality for women has been an issue for over a hundred years, as has racial equality and religious freedom has been sought by many people for over three hundred years. The first documented gay rights organization was founded in 1924, almost a century ago. So how long is a SUPER long, exactly?

how do you know?

none of those have been at threat for a SUPER long time

also what religios freedom lmao the'yre aitheists

i seriously doubt that you would

Religious freedom for Atheists means the freedom to not believe in a god or higher power, if we did not have religious freedom then the diversity of our world’s beliefs and cultures would be compromised. Also, as an Atheist with friends of other religions, I support their right to practice their religions without having to worry about hate and prejudice.

you dont have a religion though why do you care

Why would an atheist die over that?

What do christians stand for then? atheists stand for science, facts and proof,