will you?

Also, you aren't answering the question

Sorry, didn't mean to dodge the question. I was just struck by the idea that a fetus isn't alive, but they have a gender identity. I would never make a life / death decision of a baby simply because we could predict its gender preferences.

You do you i guess

That rhymes

Fun Fact: not everyone who is slightly left wing is radical left

Well, flman2020 just said i am radical left. Life begins at birth. I don't care if the embryo has sexual preferences and what they are, because an embryo is not conscious

Not much changes 5 minutes before birth and 5 minutes after. Aborting a totally healthy fully developed baby that is viable outside the womb moments before birth is considered radical by most.

A foetus is maybe conscious, although we don't know for sure. An embryo is just a clump of a few hundred cells, so i can safely say that they aren't conscious. On the other hand, we know that the mother is conscious and perfectly able to feel pain when, say, the baby needs to be aborted to save the mother's life or because she doesn't want to have a child. It is her body, and while the child is still in the womb, it is still part of her body

Well, except the fact that it is getting all of it's nutrients from the mother

A reply to the red comment below that ends in much. I said a foetus isn't confirmed conscious. It isn't definitely conscious, but it isn't definitely unconscious

Yep, but a foetus isn't confirmed conscious, so killing it is like chopping down a tree to save a person

A reply to the red comment below that ends in dream.

Most abortions are done with a medicine (loose term), not some kind of surgery. The medicine kills the embryo (to remind you, that is a clump of a few thousand cells). In fact, the majority of abortions are done on an embryo and not a foetus.

Child. The only word you use to describe someone. Are you a f**king goat mom from a retro looking RPG from 2015?.

A reply to the red comment below that ends in so.

You seem to be fine with killing trees. You seem to be fine with killing bacteria. They are unconscious. A foetus might be conscious. An embryo is not.

Also, if you hate abortion so much, why do you vote for Trump?

An embryo is (by definition) a clump of cells. I said the embryo is a clump of cells, not a late foetus. I justify abortion because the embryo is not conscious, feels no pain, and is therefore just as much murder as it is a unicorn

read plenty of books.

kinda hard to find one on fetal development tho

I do read plenty of books. Prove it otherwise. Do you stalk me?

And also, it is hard to find one that accurately describes the consciousness of foetuses or an embryos. I can check it up on the internet, but that isn't the kind of book you physically open, so I assumed you meant a book with paper in it

If that is the case, I can't find many. You can't complain about believing in fiction, because you believe that Atlantis exists. All I can find is that babies are capable of conscious thought from 5 months old.

Also, when I said life begins at birth, I meant that it officially begins at birth. You don't celebrate the day you were conceived, do you?

It's called a birthday, genius. Also, that hashtag is really cumbersome to write down. maybe get something more viable?

Because dumbass. We should because it is a TRADITION and sometimes we keep TRADITIONs because they are have no f**king REASON to NOT.

I do not understand the density of this crowd.

You are celebrating your BIRTHday, the day you were delivered from the last chance to scramble your brain with forceps. The day you escaped abortion.

It is a day to celebrate with those who love you. Maybe they had a difficult time being able to afford all your needs.

Your mom loved you so much that she endured the pain of child birth. She fed, dispered, washed and clothed you.

Hopefully you had a loving dad that kept food on the table and a roof over your head.

Even if you resent the people that brought you into this world, there is one thing you cancelebrate. Your BIRTH.

That is something that 50 MILLION souls in the United States alone can not do.

1,000,000 every year since R v W.

So be happy when it rolls around, no one murdered you in the womb.

You know you always think that you are right with at least three people arguing with you that you are wrong. Your like there Encrapta! And there Scornia! How would you like it if I called you Timdurr? And were you born in 1972 because you act like you were.

The f**k you called me kermitthecommie

I know precisely who I'm talking to: Timber1972, an ultra-sensitive homophobe who screeches his/her way across imgflip, stomping his/her footie pajamas because people dare to disagree with him/her, presumptuously demanding people conform to him/her, rather than the other way around. Outside of that, it is not possible for me to care less about who I am talking to.

Just changed 2 words. It perfectly fits just as much as me, maybe more.

You really think i don't know how to put someone in their place. You call me a child, but does that mean that you have a job? If you have one, you should better get on with it instead of spending all day memeing

"TimbHER, timbutt, timbrrrr, Bimbo, Timur, whimper, pimple1972,"

LOLZ! Those are good ones, Whimper. They should really be capitalised.

Are you blocking me, Sniffler1972?

"and why you and your ilk want it to go away...except for you, natch."

What are you talking about here timber? Be more specific not ambiguous...

Sorry but the comment thread went on too long but the call of duty gamer mindset is "There gay and gay is bad." -One 12-year old call of duty gamer.

As per usual, you are a dick. As also usual you are ignorant. The language laws I was speaking about are not laws just rules. That the majority of languages follow. And stop calling me little one, because your dick is the only little thing here.

So I don’t want your dick pics dumbass

Language laws. What most languages use. English just doesn’t use them. Most languages would not have a past tense, or you know what, I shouldn’t teach you because you are an ungrateful twat.

English, the language that does not follow normal language laws. Maybe think about who you are talking to before insulting them for their poor grammar.

That's pretty perverted you need a smoke, did your own dialogue turn you on? Maybe you could puff a hundred a day and do the world a favour

Timber. In fact, the true understanding of English and any language is that they are always evolving. There are no laws in English only standards declared as laws.

I am not from a foreign country but i have a couple second languages and it messes up my English. And i am trans lesbian too

Hmm. You with the mindset of a 12 year old call of duty gamer and calling me a child. (And probably Entrapta because you had some quarrels with them.)

And I know what sarcasm is

I am joking it is a f**king birthday dumbass

Yep. a delight. Why do you think I constantly put you in your place?. All of your comments here consist of claims without proper evidence and imitations (that really only a 7-year-old would do). You call people children because of typos, and then call me the SAME NICKNAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Talk about a lack of imagination