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YOU KNOW I CANNOT HELP YOU WIN ELECTION THIS TIME. THAT'S OK, VLAD. I'M GOING TO RIG THE ELECTION MYSELF.  I'M GETTING RID OF MOST OF THE MAIL BOXES IN THE U.S. SO PEOPLE CAN'T VOTE BY MAIL. | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
223 views 8 upvotes Made by 4DayCreeper 5 years ago in politicsTOO
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5 ups, 5y,
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Actually Putin is helping like last time.
1 up, 5y
I guess I had better do some more research. Thanks for the info! :-)
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1 up, 5y,
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From one conspiracy to another
2 ups, 5y,
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https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/08/9967359/are-mailboxes-being-removed-streets-usps-reason
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0 ups, 5y,
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This article doesn't actually say how trump is relates to mailbox removal.

(When reached for comment about the mailbox removals in Oregon, Ernie Swanson, a USPS spokesperson told The Oregonian the decision was made as a result of a decline in mail, particularly since the coronavirus pandemic. “That translates to less mail in collection boxes,” said Swanson.)

("The USPS is sending letters to some states warning mail-in ballots may not be delivered in time to be counted in the Presidential election because their deadlines are too tight,")

This actually proves Trump is right, mail in ballots won't be counted, and could be used to steal the election...
1 up, 5y,
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still not getting it?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/13/donald-trump-usps-post-office-election-funding
1 up, 5y,
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Not getting it is crucial to white supremacy.
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0 ups, 5y,
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjyvbSSyJ3rAhXBvZ4KHUwxDT4QFjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw323R1Z6g7oqQd8IbGSLlvj

It's you thats not "getting it"
1 up, 5y,
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Trying to defending white supremacy again, eh?

Anything this white house puts out is in bad faith. I try not to get lies.
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0 ups, 5y,
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Please take your meds
0 ups, 5y
Not any I get from you.
1 up, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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Voter fraud gets detected, but what percentage goes undetected... nobody can possibly know that number. But if you have half a brain all you have to do is LOOK AT THE 2016 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES, its not even a debate as to who won the majority vote.
Stop pretending like you don't know what Hillary did to Bernie in that election. Subversion much?!
1 up, 5y,
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No, it wasn’t.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/14/16640082/donna-brazile-warren-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-rigged

I’ll save you the read to get to the punchline:

“The 2016 Democratic primary wasn’t rigged by the DNC, and it certainly wasn’t rigged against Sanders. But Democratic elites did try to make Clinton’s nomination as inevitable, as preordained, as possible. And the party is still managing the resentment that engendered in voters. ‘Once somebody doesn’t trust you,’ sighs Buckley, the New Hampshire Democratic chair, ‘it’s very hard to get that trust back.’ ”

Poitical parties’ hierarchies determine who they want to run ahead of time and tend to push their constituency in the direction they want. The outlier was Trump and we see how well that’s worked out, both for the GOP and the country.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://apnews.com/5232ce5601996c1de440806ad30fa4fb&ved=2ahUKEwit-NL5jp7rAhWJGDQIHY0EBaYQFjABegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw2Qd-QiaT-TktQFZCNaUhsg
0 ups, 5y
Two sentences.

That’s what you come up with? Two sentences with no context or footnotes, nothing. And it’s not even about the 2016 primary, it’s about the Iowa debacle.
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0 ups, 5y,
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Sorry wrong link, https://youtu.be/D5ugmNoanx8

Let's not forget the past
0 ups, 5y
The DNC never wanted a Bernie nom in ‘16 or ‘20 so unless there was a huge outpouring (there wasn’t) of support, he wasn’t getting picked. There was very vocal support but not enough to sway leadership. We’ve all made our peace with that. A Sanders presidency would’ve at best been tempered by a centrist Dem-controlled House and Senate and outright stonewalled by a GOP-controlled Senate.

You keep beating the drum of voter fraud, using spoon-fed Trump talking points and your ‘evidence’ is evidence that the system weeds out fraud, not promotes it.

We are living in unprecedented times which requires an unprecedented response. Mail-in ballots is one of them. The military has done it for the last two centuries. Trump has done it for decades, as has a chunk of his administration. Do you believe it’s merely coincidental that Trump is kneecapping the USPS when a RESPONSIBLE leader would be fortifying it?
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Basically trump has this election in the bag, so basically the only way the dems will win is to steal it. Trump is making sure they don't, in doing so he may have to call out voter fraud wherever present. Trump has no incentive to steal an election he's already going to win. So any action trump is taking is to ensure his lead with the popular vote. Goodbye and good luck living in your little echo chamber of CNN delusion.
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It was rigged, I watched the whole thing, so did the rest of the country. We watched them rig this primary too, with that "glitch" that took away Bernie's lead away and put Buttigieg in the lead.
You're either blind or braindead
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0 ups, 5y,
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Only a percentage of fraud is detected, even though evidence of fraud my be as clear as the democratic primaries when Hillary was handed the nomination over Bernie who had a landslide popular vote.
1 up, 5y,
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You honestly don’t see the fatal flaw in your logic? You can’t really believe this bullshit, can you?
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0 ups, 5y,
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Bernie filling stadiums of people, Hillary barely filling auditoriums.
Is there something wrong with your eyes?
1 up, 5y
So I can see why you’re circumventing the question. You don’t have an answer. And you can’t just make up a number, particularly when the White House just showed how the system works.
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0 ups, 5y,
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Again, trump doesn't say the people won't be able to vote, he's worried about mail in ballots being fraudulent, if he was worried about fraudulent voting, why wouldn't he try to stop it?
He's right too, there's many instances of fraudulent voting by mail.
I'm surprised the democrat voters aren't more concerned about rigging elections after what happened to Bernie sanders during the primaries against Hillary. After seeing the democrats get away with rigging their own election its easily assumed they would try to rig any election they can...
2 ups, 5y,
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THERE IS NO APPRECIABLE FRAUD FROM MAIL IN BALLOTS ... IN FACT ITS HARDER TO RIG THAN ELECTRONIC..... FFS STOP BELIEVING and PUSHHING HIS MADE UP BULLSHIT ALREADY!!!!! TRUMP ASKED PUTIN TO HACK AMERICANS ON LIVE TV... HE DENIED THERE WAS ANY INTERFERENCE AN THAT PUTIN WAS TELLING THE TRUTH... HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE BY MORE THAN ANYONE IN HISTORY...... but yea, its the 'other' guy rigging.... FFS>..
1 up, 5y
Give it up trying to debate with people who are either MAGAts or on the right. They will continue drinking the Kool-Aid no matter what. The one thing about those on the left is that when they are presented with facts, they are willing to admit their mistakes and not insult the person presenting the facts.
1 up, 5y
That's why the Russians want everyone to vote electronically. They can change the votes.
1 up, 5y
.0025%. Not many.
1 up, 5y,
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https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/postal-service-calls-off-removing-mailboxes-around-montana/article_45c3a2e0-7e86-5163-8da6-8428136801ba.html
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Again, this actually proves Trump is trying to stop voter fraud, not cause it.

(President Donald Trump has opposed additional funding for the Postal Service. He has also repeatedly made false claims that mail-in voting leads to widespread fraud.)
Here it says he makes "false" claims,
when there is actual documented cases of voter fraud with mail in ballots.

(On Thursday, the president admitted he didn’t want to provide more money to the Postal Service in order to make it more difficult to deliver mail ballots)

https://youtu.be/jDUfUkS2gqo
Here's a conversation you should listen to, might help you see why I'm so critical of your claims.
1 up, 5y,
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jfc... I give up. believe what you want, dude admits it... but whatever.

"Trump admits he’s blocking postal cash to stop mail-in votes"

https://apnews.com/ece1f6e9cea1b2aa0a8c6af7ca003f26

Yea all those millions of military and Americans abroad and prior mailins were fraud... for decades.
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0 ups, 5y,
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Again this is Trump quoted from your article,
“They want $3.5 billion for something that will turn out to be fraudulent. That’s election money, basically,” 
Hes worried, with good reason, about election fraud.
1 up, 5y,
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjyvbSSyJ3rAhXBvZ4KHUwxDT4QFjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw323R1Z6g7oqQd8IbGSLlvj
1 up, 5y
1 up, 5y
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2016/10/28/voter-fraud-suspect-arrested-des-moines/92892042/
1 up, 5y,
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Meanwhile, in the real world.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article240968166.html
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0 ups, 5y,
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See, you just sent me a case of voter fraud... good job proving my point hahaha
1 up, 5y,
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The rate of absentee ballot fraud is .0025%. Not a reason to make millions risk death or disability in order to vote.
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I believe trump is in support of absentee ballots, not mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require some form of identification, mail in ballots do not
In the last 20 years there has been 1,290 cases of mail in voter fraud. This is alarming.
Freedom is dangerous, many people risked and gave their lives for our right to vote, and the fight for our right to vote still goes on. The system we have isn't perfect, and sometimes the freedom we uphold is not the easiest and safest path forward.
1 up, 5y,
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I've been a poll worker, and your understanding of absentee ballots is flawed. Whether requested or not, you have to sign them and so does the person who delivers them, and who has voted is recorded, so if a person tries to vote more than once, they're caught. Mail-in ballots are much more secure than in-person voting on electronic macines.
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I don't disagree with you that they may be more secure than electronic voting machines. People forge signatures, people misplace mail, but those machines are a whole other problem.
Voting needs to be put on a block chain, there's a few startups trying to do this but they're dismissed by both parties.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news3lv.com/amp/news/local/mail-in-ballots-versus-absentee-ballots-whats-the-difference
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0 ups, 5y
Your article once again proves my point. Absentee ballots are requested, as mail in ballots are not. Such concerns are, multiple ballots sent to one individuals, ballots sent to deceased and filled out by someone else, multiple ballots sent to multiple addresses for an individual, stolen ballots filled out..
Absentee ballots only help to eliminate some of these issues. B being requested every election the voter has to verify identity and address, one ballot is sent to a single address to a person who is verified to be a living person.
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1 up, 5y,
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Nice deepfake. Do you work for Putin?
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0 ups, 5y,
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This videos been around longer than deep fakes. Nice try though
0 ups, 5y
You're right, the editing is much more primitive. You can never see his lips when the fraudulent audio is inserted.
0 ups, 5y,
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First one's a joke, second one doesn't say he was born there, just that his family's from there.
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He wasn't vetted, didn't have a birth certificate, they forged one, its been proven countless times to be a forgery. It's something for the historians to look back on now so I'm not worried about it. I'm more concerned that he got away with his involvement in pedophilia, and bidens involvement as well.
Goodbye
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I believe it was a valid birth certificate, and that he hasn't been involved in pedophilia. Bill Clinton and trump are another matter.
0 ups, 5y,
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ITS NOT FRAUDULENT.... WHAT THE F**K EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE????? NONE... F**KING NONE//// ok we are done, you keep believing the check from Mexico is on the way.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjyvbSSyJ3rAhXBvZ4KHUwxDT4QFjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw323R1Z6g7oqQd8IbGSLlvj
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YOU KNOW I CANNOT HELP YOU WIN ELECTION THIS TIME. THAT'S OK, VLAD. I'M GOING TO RIG THE ELECTION MYSELF. I'M GETTING RID OF MOST OF THE MAIL BOXES IN THE U.S. SO PEOPLE CAN'T VOTE BY MAIL.