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...he uses votes to get into positions of power, is that what you're talking about?

He's supposed to. That's how all of this works.

Can you read, it says he uses black people, he piggybacks on his black running mates for political gain.
Its not that hard to figure out

To appeal to voters? I mean, I'm still not getting... it's still part of... what's the problem here exactly?

Obama could have picked anyone to be his vp, Biden was not a factor in that election, people voted for the black guy because of his skin color. Biden is not going to win this election, but his vp pick might help his chances, so what does he do? He picks a black person to once again ride into the Whitehouse, because people will blindly vote for the black person.

If someone of color or gender gets elected based on their OWN color or gender then all power to them. But biden is a WHITE MALE, so he's using people to gain political power.

Again, you're SUPPOSED to use people to gain political power. That's what a vote IS. The alternative is that we have a monarch you'd have to use to gain political power from, and we had a big war about that and decided that was bad.

It has nothing to do with having a monarch, it has everything to do with integrity. Did trump pander to try and get votes? No. He chose a person who he thought would do the best job, not based on skin color or gender. He has integrity.
What you're advocating for is identity politics, you can advocate for anything you want, its a free country. But don't be dumbfounded when people see through the phony crap and go with the guy who isn't using minorities for their own gain.

With your logic ten years in the future people will all be out of work, homelessand starving to death and saying, "well at least the president has a va**na and dark skin so we can't complain"...

HELLS TO THE YES, TRUMP PANDERED TO GET VOTES EVERY STEP OF THE F**KING WAY

How do you expect that bullshit to fly? No. F**king. Way.

he made campaign promises like all the candidates did and have always done. But he did not stoop so low as to use someone for their gender or race.

HE PICKED MIKE PENCE FOR HIS RELIGION!

And a little bit because he's pro-life, white, and homophobic. But mostly to gain the support of the evangelical Christians; Republicans have never won an election without the evangelical vote and after Trump attacked Ted Cruz for the nomination he needed a peace offering and that is what Mike Pence was.

Look, there is NO QUESTION that Trump pandered to you. The question was, did you think that Trump was pandering in the ways that politicians SHOULD be pandering? You thought he did. I thought he didn't. And we voted accordingly.

But the shit coming out of Trump's mouth was just to get your vote. And there's really no argument to that. You're denying it just to be difficult and everyone can see straight through that. Your bullshit does not fly.

Religion is an ideology someone chooses to adhere to, its not something SOMEONE IS BORN WITH!!!!!
If he did pick Pence to get the evangelical vote its an ideology trump was making a part of his campaign. The key word is ideology,

No, the key word is pandering. Your distinction is garbage - your argument amounts to "but he was pandering to something that I think is ok to pander to".

And frankly, I'm tired of people like you thinking they can change what words mean to make distinctions that don't exist. We call that particular kind of bullshit "circular reasoning".

So trump was picking someone based on their values to sway people with the same values. Biden picked someone based not on their values but on something they had no power over at all.
If you can't see the difference then you are morality bankrupt as well.

I call your poticular kind of bullshit IDENTITY POLITICS, and picking someone based on race and gender is the definition of RACISM AND SEXISM!

Most of the blacks play into it too