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It’s no greater love than killing someone on a cross?!

Sorry, I didn't give the context. The quote is from a Bible verse "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends" John 15:13 Christians believe Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice by willingly dying in the cross for mankind.

"If a man has sexual relation with an animal, it must be put to death and you must kill the animal." Laviticus 13

It really has nothing to do with my post.

Peace.

You like to throw around that word"peace" but I don't think you know what it means.

A person who truly is at peace with themselves wouldn't try to insult Christians on a day they revere as one of the holiest of the year. Basically you're saying you are sinning more so that the excruciating death Jesus underwent would be worthwhile? Would you spit in the face of a soldier who died for your country and say oh just making it worth your while. Even if you're an athiest you should know better than mock a person we respect.

Do you do the same for important figures in Islam or Judiasim?

If a martyr sacrifices themselves to pay for future sins because he knows that humans are inherently sinful ( sin being not being able to adhere to all the rules in the book,basically )isn’t the bigger insult to let the excruciating death have been in vain.
Or..
If someone says “hey buddy, I’ve paid for the all you can eat buffet” then there’s no good reason not to eat your fill.

Believe me Kate I am at peace with myself.
☮️

I could just add easily insult your version of reality which basically says if someone dumps out a 5,000 piece jigsaw puzzle all the pieces are supposed to magically land all perfectly assembled on their own accord. Even that is more likely to happen than the universe existing with all its intricacies without a creator.

If you paid thousands of your hard earned money for your son or daughter to attend college and they simply partied the entire time, didn't attend classes, got drunk, went on drugs, hooked up every night. And they said well we just wanted to not let your money be spent in vain would you feel valued as a dad who had tried to provide?

Trust me even if Jesus had only died for the people who came before him there was enough evil in the world to make his sacrifice worthwhile. Is adding more evil to the world part of your athiest moral code at work?
If you think life is simply an all you can eat buffet I think you have some growing up to do.

I am aChristian because lack sufficient faith to believe in evolution

Err well not quite.
(the extremely short version)
The universe that I inhabit has an astronomical number of parts (far more than even a supercomputer could calculate in a humans lifetime ) that have over billions of years interacted with each other to make new parts and painfully slowly with dead ends and errors forcing all things to have evolved into the form we see today.
Evolution cares nothing for creating to a set design.
It only promotes to the next level those things that are adapted.
Perfection is not needed only the infinitesimally small changes at each stage, with those that didn’t resigned to zero status.

Oh just a quick question whilst I think about it .. why would the perfect almighty creator of the universe who is supposed to have a special relationship with just one set of nearly hairless bi-pedal primates create such things a viruses that are extremely deadly to them and that make no distinction between religious/non religious sinners/sinless what’s the plan there?

As for the college analogy... c’mon Kate really.
If my child acted that way then they wouldn’t be getting what I paid for would They, that being ‘an education’ so they would have wasted my money wouldn’t they...not got good value for it.
So I stand by my original reply.
That being if someone really died to pay for my sins.. I’m just making good value of the situation.

As for evil ..oh dear where do I start on that?
You’re probably not going to believe this but I DON’T drink, take drugs, gamble, eat meat or dairy products and I’ve never committed any murders , rapes, or any crimes against people who haven’t had it coming to them anyway.
Maybe I was evil when I helped out a friend today or maybe phoning another friend to see if he was o.k. During the lockdown.
Or maybe having the patience of a ‘saint’ makes me evil as I care for 2 of my children who are autistic & have adhd.
My brand of evil is letting people fully enjoy their lives and their bodies to the extremes of their capacity.
without the moralising of some patriarchal, mysoganistic, homophobic, & confused ( to name but a few of their traits) semi literate goat hearders from the ancient Middle East.

No growing up need thanks.
(Phew it finally ended, felt like I was writing a new gospel)
Hugs.. & peace.

Hugs back :)

Thanks so much for the lengthy explanation. I hope you didn't think I was accusing you of wanting more evil in the world. Perhaps you misunderstood the whole concept of why Jesus died on the cross. (I know you don't believe in any of it but please humor me some more. ) Yes, He died to pay for sin but not that we could sin more but it was a debt that needed to be paid to open heaven's gates. So more like bail money, a ransom so to speak. So just like the college tuition you work hard for so that your kids can get an education he sacrificed his life so that we could be in heaven. So in your buffet analogy think if someone payed for your meal but you decided just to eat the sugar and salt packets on the table and then moved to start feasting on the crumbs on the floor. Not really what your friend intended but no one is gonna stop you. But really you'd be missing out on the feast you could be having. That's sin, feasting on garbage when you have a 10 course meal in front of you. So sure God isn't gonna stop people from sinning but after awhile it's not going to make them happy in the long term. He died so that we might live. Does that make sense?

I know you're not an evil guy, my intention was not to label you as such but to make sense of your attitude toward sin (which is doing evil) which to me sounded like well Jesus died so that I could just have a frolic and not have any responsibility for my actions.
Sounds like you are doing plenty of good, as i'm sure many athiests and believers are.

Props to you. I grew up with an autistic brother and teach them of all ages. It's a special calling for sure. Hugs....and peace.

Unrelated, but you said you don't use dairy. Im actually thinking of going diary free since it seems to affect my body. How does one go about eliminating it from their driest when so much has dairy in it?

Peace :)

Diet not driest