They’re the same thing.

LOL ( :

...and I’m pretty sure you’d pick the guy on the left lol.

My son works for a paper mill. It’s in my town :)

They closed a mill in Nova Scotia, Canada for environmental reasons (polluting Native land
I think), 500 jobs gone.

We use to be the center for paper. Holyoke wad known as the paper city, but now we are down to maybe two factories in the area. Still pays well though if you can handle swing shift work.