Inside the mind of the average internet atheist troll...

You might consider that reasoning and logic are futile but that's an argument and an attempt at reasoning. This is rather like sitting in a tree, cutting off the branch you are sitting on. Do you always avoid reasoning as a general rule because you have concluded it's futile? Do you accept that some arguments presented ANYWHERE are or can be fallacious. Is CIRCULAR REASONING on of those fallacies? Or do you only think that reasoning and logic can be fallacious when atheists use it?

The reason an argument becomes circular, comes down to the EVIDENCE not the logic. The failure to provide OBJECTIVE empirical evidence that does not ASSUME the conclusion or claim being argued is circular. If you are asserting that the bible is truthful book representing a deity, but I suspect you are wrong and it is only the claims of human authors, then the Bible AND it's God are being held as the moot point in question. The Bible can NOT be used to authenticate itself and the god it claims to represent has to be evidenced from entirely other sources.

Conclusion: Using the bible as evidence for the existence of the Christian God, and what that alleged god is supposed to have said (in the Bible itself), ACTUALY IS circular reasoning. Circular reasoning is a fallacy and the comparison of using logic and reason to uphold logic and reason is false, because logic and reason are the tools we apply to the evidence and you are required to provide evidence that is INDEPENDENT of the claim/assertion/conclusion being presented, otherwise you're simply pretending that something is true because 'my book says so' and how do you know that... 'because m book says so'. The fact that theists will try to pull such blatantly absurd 'end runs' around rational inquiry, betrays a deep intellectual dishonesty and an embarrassing ulterior motive of desperate self-mutual deception.

But what should we expect from the mindset of those who have been told and accepted that beliefs are things we can just CHOOSE to accept because we have freewill? The central doctrine of Christianity is an OBLIGATION to CHOOSE what they believe and that is imposed as an emotional gambit, using emotional blackmail/bribery and mindboggling desperation to reinforce oneself and others with the UTMOST confirmation bias, to avoid doubt and uphold pious, faith as the noblest of virtues. Arrogant self righteous delusional ignorance is the only outcome a rational person could expect and Christianity delivers this in spades.

FIRST of all my friend, I must say that coming onto this platform OR creating an alternate account for the purpose of trolling Christian and bible believing posts shows your insecurity with your own worldview. But I understand why you are insecure with it and lash out at people who hold to a biblical worldview.

I was an ardent anti-theist until I was 21. Back in elementary school I was telling the "Christian kids" there was something wrong with them for "believing in and talking to 'imaginary friends and calling them god.'" I didn't have internet during my teenage years into my twenties, so everything you have ever typed online about "theists" I have said it to their face. I loved to get into arguments with Christians about the futility of their beliefs, the lack of evidence for their beliefs, and the self righteousness and bias that their beliefs created (even though I didn't even know what they believed.)

But I was never satisfied nor fulfilled nor was I ever secure in what I believed. I looked forward to arguing with Christians about what they believed, not to prove a point, but to reinforce my beliefs to myself. Since I didn't have the internet to go to in order to look for such arguments, I just talked to myself about, "how that supernatural garbage couldn't be true, how it takes objective empirical evidence to verify a truth claim, how the existence of so many religions proves none of them can be true, how since the bible was written by men it couldn't be true, etc." I would talk about that stuff over and over in my mind unless there was someone to argue with; so I understand your insecurity and your need to lash out and reinforce your own beliefs to yourself.

SECONDLY, if you think the "central doctrine of Christianity is an OBLIGATION to CHOOSE what they believe" you have been misled. We don't choose to believe God. All people start out rejecting the God we know exists and GOD CHOOSES to reveal Himself to us and which of us will believe in Him. God may have chosen you while you're still in your rebellion against Him. One day He may reveal Himself to you and you too will hear His voice and follow Him, whether or not you think it is possible. He did it to me over 15 years ago.