A Dangerous Avenue

You know, if society of the future became so morally advanced and enlightened that I look like an awful person in comparison, I really wouldn't mind. It's actually a very optimistic thought.

So, go for it, spacemen of the future.

I submit, we should not erase or re-write history. We should be willing to learn from it. We should not praise the bad actors, we should not praise failures in humanity and history. But it must be understood in historical context in its own day, and lessons applied in the context in which we have come to understand. This is how we grow and learn. This is how we do not make the same mistakes again. In attempting and/or succeeding in erasing and re-writing history, we learn nothing . . . for the lesson (for those on the horizon) was lost by those with an agenda today regarding those from yesterday.

Without anything specific to tie this discussion to, that all seems fine in principle. But the USA is also the only place - certainly the only place I've ever been to - that still has all these weird statues exactly for the purpose of praising the bad actors and an absence of monuments to the people who disrupt the narrative (when was the last time you saw a statue of John Cabot anywhere in America?). You certainly don't see a lot of statues of Oliver Cromwell in England. In Budapest, they took all their Soviet-era propaganda statues and moved them to a park where you can't see the statues from street level, but the park is open to the public for people who want to teach their kids about that chapter of their history. But the USA is something else and I've never seen anything quite like it.

You are correct. We ARE different. And for many Americans, we respectfully, do not care how any other country does it. We are no longer beholding to any other countries in the world---England, France, Spain, Mexico, etc. Our Noble Patriots and Deplorables were/are willing to fight for our independence and freedom and we have gained it and we have kept it. And more than once we came to the aid of several nations and helped liberate them. What the UK does about O.Cromwell is their business. How Budapest deals with Soviet monuments is quite immaterial to any of us. How the Russians choose to handle the story of the Romanov family is quite their own affair. [*] Which brings me back to the base-line . . . Visit . . . or don't. Immigrate LEGALLY . . . or don't come at all. But America was not founded with revisionist history. Lessons will not be learned and remembered with people removing it, painting it over, or hiding it. We will NOT stand down to The SnowKingdom becoming *triggered and radical Leftist Socialists-Communists-Marxists-Fascists-et al. . . . just because they keep screaming, screeching, ranting, raving, and violently protesting otherwise. My family is full of American Patriots. ALL of history brought us to where we are, today. We have improvements and gains still to be made---but if part of our history is erased and moved and vandalizes---the very same mistakes risk being made again. I care not how they do it ELSEwhere. We ARE different. Thank GOD! ~~~~~~anniegityergunoakley

Yeah. IDK. In re: . . . Conservatives don't usually wear black hoodies and face coverings; We may peacefully protest or rally---but we don't have a propensity to *violently RIOT, vandalize, burn, and loot. It just isn't our gig. And, by the by, we don't usually require safe spaces, puppies, DrPepper, and Pizza.

We can address this question into infinity . . . Did many of the most powerful tribal chiefs in Africa have slaves? Did black and white plantation owners in Jamaica, Dutch and French Colonies own slaves? Did Scot, Irish, Welsh, and British own slaves? I think we have enough evidence to stipulate that people in America owned slaves . . . there were white and black owners . . . in the North and South. Even some former black slaves owned slaves. Go figure! How about the Spainish and Italians and Portuguese How about in the various the Asian cultures? (They had shang-hai ships/industry---and every niche of the chain was in operation.) Have royals and landholders and traders and shipping company owners engaged in slave trade? Should one person be allowed to own another? (No.) This goes back to The Greek World and Roman Empire . . . and back to Egypt, etc. Want to name some more? There are more who can be named. [*] Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

*Spanish.