as a #17 who used to be a #nothing, I'd like to see less pouting and threatening to take 'my' ball and go home

as a #17 who used to be a #nothing, I'd like to see less pouting and threatening to take 'my' ball and go home | TO ALL MY FRIENDS IN THE RAREIFIED AIR NEAR THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD LET'S STOP TREATING NEWBIES AS INTERLOPERS ON OUR TERRITORY AND START | image tagged in memes,imgflip,imgflip users,imgflip community,top users,kenj | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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11 ups, 1 reply
Leonardo Dicaprio Cheers Meme | NICELY SAID | image tagged in memes,leonardo dicaprio cheers | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
And thanks for being one of the first people to comment on my memes,when I first started. :)
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6 ups, 1 reply
I did? Thanks. :)
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7 ups, 1 reply
Yep, you & DeedsterDoo .
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5 ups, 2 replies
I traded e-mails with the Deeds a couple weeks ago. She's doing better but still working back towards the idea of contributing here again. I of course encouraged it. :)
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6 ups, 1 reply
Cool.I hope she does come back.
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0 ups
So do I. :)
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4 ups, 1 reply
I texted with Deeds a few days ago. She seemed glad to hear from me. She mentioned you'd emailed her. I hope she does come back. I think she'd get along well with giveuahint
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1 up
Yeah. :) I just give a gentle nudge and not a hard push. She has other issues to work through and when she does hopefully she'll make it back. I miss her.
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10 ups, 1 reply
OMG, yes. I needed so much help and almost quite because of some negative comments. I learned the site is more about creating and not posting memes I found on the internet that I found funny. i.imgflip.com/291c8w.jpg (click to show)
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8 ups, 1 reply
Glad you didn't quit. And you got the gist of the place down. :) Some users take the easy route out, but you can find the creative ones out quickly.
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6 ups, 1 reply
Thanks dude, it is so fun to do and create. I am glad I kept going too. Also you have some really good memes.
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1 up
Thanks. :) It all about the creativity here. It just takes time for new users to get the gist and I think some of the veterans are giving them too much of a hard time about it.
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8 ups, 2 replies
Ya. I don't think it's the "noobies" . It's the content.
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8 ups, 1 reply
I think sometimes it is. "ur mum gay, ur sister a mister" blah blah blah.
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7 ups
I agree. Sometimes it really is.
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7 ups, 2 replies
Less-than-stellar content that a few 'elite' users are overreacting to. And some of the blame is going to new-to-site users who may have accidentally re-posted something that they didn't know existed. I've just seen a few tantrums lately and I'm kinda tired of the feeling I'm getting from some that imgflip is 'our' site that is being 'spoiled' by newcomers.
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8 ups, 1 reply
I think some of that could be at play also. I have switched sides on this topic a few times until recently. I have gained perspective from conversations such as these. I say let them meme. We can ignore what we don't like. A lot of them aren't even engaging socially, but rather just making these memes and sharing them elsewhere. There was one on the front page the other day and I don't think that user even knew it. There was not a single response from him on his own front page meme. They guy struck gold and didn't even know it. LOL!
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7 ups, 2 replies
Yeah, I've seen those first few pages memes where the creator never responds to comments. It's either as you say and they're making for elsewhere, or they don't know how to 'play the game' so to speak. Like you I say let 'em meme; if they get upvotes then that's how it works, even if they're unoriginal. It's when veteran memers start complaining about it, and I detect more sour grapes from less attention paid to them, that I feel I have to make memes like this one. :P
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7 ups, 1 reply
And full of truth. :) Like I said (if you're reading these in order) you're the example I use of how a top user should be. I was just feeling a little crabby lately about reading some of the comments some of those around me in the top thirty or so were making about how the flip had gone to hell, or words to that effect. I thought 'and you weren't in the place of that swaddling newbie yourself once?' People seeming to forget they once were twats posting old stuff. People bragging about ditching out here to go to sites like Reddit. Places where grumpy old farts get their 'proper' due, but which are boring as drying paint. :P

How's things going with the kid and such? Glad you nipped in to check this out.
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7 ups, 2 replies
I think people lose aspects of the fun of IMG and take it too serious.
in the end we should meme, crap, good stuff, whatever we can, as long as we have fun in the comments and do the same on others memes for laughs and smiles. One day we will all be dead and gone and IMG wont matter, memes wont matter, just the joys of the moment. time is too short to harp on anything, if its not immediate family or close friends shrug it off and move on :)

Thanks for the positive outlook of my memeing and helping people :)

Take care bud, have fun and don't get too hung up on others, just do your own thing and have fun.
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6 ups
:)
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8 ups, 1 reply
People may not realize that's how they come across unless it's mentioned. You never know who you may have enlightened! :)
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6 ups
Lots of self-absorbed people on the flip, but also plenty of simply clueless ones. :)
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7 ups, 1 reply
I'd say it isn't newcomers vs. Middle school stuff that clogs the arteries of the pages. Reports are fine. I've had some of mine get reported and I up vote them.
However, two button pubg or Fortnite memes day after day gets tiring.
I think the answer is to met them know it's been done. Nicely. Then, maybe by looking at "elite" (I feel weird typing that) memers, they can grow into decent memers.
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7 ups
I figure if I don't care for a meme, or if it's been overdone or isn't original then I just don't upvote it. I understand that many new memes are dumb as hell, but it's been that way all the time I've been on here. Nothing new, but many people are treating as if it is, and saying how they may leave the site because of it, or spend more time on dreary little places like Reddit because they have more authority there. My whine is that the whiners seem to have assumed they own the flip and when they see others get front pages with less-than-stellar memes they feel as if 'their' imgflip has left them. I'm just saying either help them - like you said - or maybe so-and-so ought to bugger off to a chat room where they'll get more attention (at the cost of their intellect and curiosity).
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8 ups, 1 reply
Dash Hopes and Socrates offered me some unsolicited advice. I was grateful. But there are a lot of things that I had to figure out on my own. I made these instructional memes:
i.imgflip.com/26hk5k.jpg (click to show)
i.imgflip.com/22sljb.jpg (click to show)
i.imgflip.com/222kkj.jpg (click to show)
i.imgflip.com/225hsi.jpg (click to show)
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6 ups, 1 reply
If only I had those when I started myself. :) Yeah, good job, and keep it up. I've just come to the realization that it makes more sense to me to improve the content of the flip by helping people rather than by dumping on them.
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1 up, 1 reply
KenJ you posted this on my "Roseanne Liberal Double Standards" meme:

I'm sorry james3v6; as much as I would like to respect your religious beliefs, nothing here even has the faint gloss of the teachings of Jesus. I would suggest you examine your life and values before you meet your creator. I'm afraid in your case you will meet a maker you were completely mistaken about.

I am replying here because of rabid antitheists like Octavia_Melody.
I appreciate you wanting to respect my religious beliefs. People like OM, Marian V. Waffle, and Jackhen Off do not. They use vulgarity, profanity, and blasphemy to get a reaction out of me when they can't troll using wit. Either their ideas are so bad or they get so triggered that all they can do is curse and blaspheme. I don't want to give them an actual reasoned response because they won't accept it anyway.

The reason I use james3v6 as my screen name is to 1. allow people to know I am a believer 2. remind myself that while I may be anonymous to the other people online I am not anonymous to God.

That is why I don't use profanity and vulgarity to troll people. I don't use communication like that because I know that I will have to give an account of every "idle word spoken." I'm already going to have to give account for a lot of idle talk on the internet without adding the sins of vulgarity and "crude jesting" (dirty jokes.)

There is noting in Scripture that forbids me from going online to troll sensitive liberals, Leftists, and unbelievers for fun. That is all I am doing with a Donald Trump/Roseanne meme. If you think that I am defending DT, you don't know what I say and have said about DT irl. He is a w**remonger and adulterer. He has lived in that for years. I am under no impressions that he is any kind of a Christian regardless of what he says. He has used the facade of religiosity to pull the wool over the eyes of many sincere Christians. But he is excellent bait to troll for Leftists and to point out their double standards.

When people say I'm not acting "very Christlike" or I'm not reflecting the teachings of Jesus, I wonder "which" Jesus they are referring to. I'm guessing it is the culturally acceptable "lowly Jesus, meek and mild, who says, "I really want you to love me, I've done so much for you, I'd never judge you, I'd never hurt you, you're breaking my heart." The culturally acceptable Jesus is not the Jesus I want to represent.
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Alright, james3v6, please accept my apology for coming off too strident. I believe you are secure and honest in your beliefs. After I left the original message I felt that it was too much. I do believe all that I said that indicated that I had little belief that conservative Christians were really following the teachings of Jesus, but in your case I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I grew up in the church, and while I no longer am a believer, the teachings of Jesus are what led me to embrace liberal values as the true way to co-exist with my fellow humans. I cannot accept conservative values as they are a hinderance to the creative abilities of humankind. And a threat to freedom to boot. You may troll liberals for fun, but we view the world as a place of few constraints and want the greatest number of people to enjoy their liberties.

Octavia is a good friend. He is as passionate in his beliefs as you are in yours. Just because he is an atheist doesn't mean that he is on the 'wrong' side. If you troll him then he will respond. Because he is intelligent and has as much of a right to free speech as you.

Your 'culturally acceptable' Jesus is the Jesus of the New Testament. The Jesus of conservative values is the Jesus interpreted through the Old Testament. One emphasizes love, acceptance, and the grace of God; the other the judgment of an angry God and the superiority of the 'chosen people'. Jesus himself said he would bring radical change. Just remember, when arguing with those who you disagree with, about the parable of the adulteress Jesus saved from stoning,
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7 ups, 1 reply
:)
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6 ups, 1 reply
I love this image. I'm going to have to keep it in my files. The expression on Pinkie Pie's face of suppressed laughter is priceless. :)
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2 ups, 1 reply
:D
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1 up, 1 reply
:)
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1 up, 1 reply
:D
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1 up, 1 reply
Looks like you are. ;)
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1 up, 1 reply
:D
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1 up
Looks like Vinyl Scratch is surprised at all the grabbing. :)
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7 ups, 2 replies
But I do agree that's it's tiring to see the pubg and fortnite memes over and over, or calling someone gay over and over. I just keep scrolling though. I don't get upset by them. But it does make the "gems" stand out, so that I stop and comment. Those that are truly funny/silly or look like there was care/effort/thought put into it get my votes and comments. :-)
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7 ups, 1 reply
I barely know what 'fortnite' means and I first saw a 'pubg' mention yesterday, and the homophobia is just bullsh!t, but yeah, if they ain't my kinda thing then I just pass over them. If a bunch of teen gamers want to make memes only other teen gamers understand, and other teen gamers upvote them, then more power to them. I'll just hang with the old folks and their corny jokes. It's just when top users start crying about people other than those they are used to joshing with start making the front pages then it all seems as if it's boozy uncle Joe complaining about the [email protected] kids and their [email protected] ways. I may be a 'top user' by points, and a grizzled vet, but I'd like to think I'd like to be helped if I was in the position the new users are, and not bitterly complained about as if I were some immigrant taking all the 'good' jobs. Fresh blood = fresh character on imgflip, but apparently it also = grumpy old farts. ;P
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5 ups, 2 replies
Well I'm glad you were open to the newcomers, because I was one of them. :-) You and JBmemegeek were the first ones to really have conversations with me at the beginning and encourage me. Then Phantasmemegoric, who became my "bestie" because we had so many of the same movies that both of us just LOVED and loved to meme about. Dash, of course, was extremely helpful in explaining things, and then I got a TON more new friends (too many to name) after that who also inspired me and continue to inspire me. I hope to do the same for the next set of newcomers. :-)
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4 ups, 1 reply
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4 ups
:-)
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2 ups, 2 replies
Despite my disdain for overused cliches, the idea of 'passing it on' is essentially what I'm getting at here. I've been here about 2-1/2 years, and despite being dispirited by some of the content of newer users sometimes, I figure the obnoxious ones will fall by the wayside and the best will rise. Removing the chaff from the grain (another cliche!). But new users should be encouraged, not shoved out of the way by those who should be guiding. It's why I tell you to wait out the trolls. Eventually you'll get far enough up the leaderboard and they'll just stop hassling you. For the most part. Thanks for your nice comments; I think I'll spend the rest of the day - once I get through my notifications - looking through stuff by newer users. :)
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2 ups, 1 reply
;D
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1 up, 1 reply
:) finally getting to my notifications!!
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1 up, 1 reply
XD XD
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:D
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XD
1 up
Told you ;D
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2 ups, 1 reply
You're a good help to memers, KenJ. We thank you. :-)
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2 ups
Yer welcome. I just try to treat other users like I'd like to be treated. And save my a$$holery for my political memes. :D
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8 ups, 1 reply
:)
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7 ups, 1 reply
lol
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6 ups
:)
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6 ups, 1 reply
Generally when I notice a user is new, I say welcome to imgflip along with my comment and upvote.

Coincidentally I was curious earlier today and looked up new users that joined yesterday. I stopped counting (and upvoting) at about the 40th new account.

This place is a big community, some people come in everyday, some people leave everyday, some live here forever because they love this place.
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5 ups, 2 replies
And I live here forever 'cause what the hell else would I do for the five hours of my work day there's no work to do? XD

Yeah, it's just time for someone like me to put in their two-bits about how so much negativity is going on around here, and the blame is being pointed at the wrong people. I know my little meme isn't going to stop the whining and barking, but it'll at least let some newer users know there are people out there who appreciate them taking the time to at least try. And as you noted, there are a lot of new 'uns lately. ;)

And you always seem to be quite helpful. Thanks.
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3 ups, 1 reply
;D
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2 ups, 1 reply
:D
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2 ups, 1 reply
:D
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2 ups, 1 reply
I've been dying to use this image. XD XD
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2 ups, 1 reply
Haha! XD
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2 ups, 1 reply
I may be using that one more often now. ;)
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2 ups, 2 replies
I found this one a while ago as well :)

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Aaaaand I can't find it :/ first the Octavia maid picture, and now this one
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2 ups, 1 reply
Blame it on the vagarities of the road. :)
1 up
Milli Vanilli reference :)
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1 up, 1 reply
At least you don't have to pay them royalties. :D
1 up
Haha! :)
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2 ups, 1 reply
Agreed and I just wanted to say that your help and support are greatly appreciated.Thanks for caring :)
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2 ups
;)
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6 ups, 1 reply
:) the meaning of life in 3 steps :)
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2 ups, 1 reply
What I find amazing is how perfectly you got the little face. :)

So, what is pubg?
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2 ups
You put some actual work into this - unlike the rest of us. XD

I only heard of pubg two days ago, now I can't avoid it.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Well said. We all were noobs when we started, and I try to welcome and encourage noobs each day if possible. TammyFaye, Dash, and others took notice of me early on and gave me advice which really helped.
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2 ups
Dash is the ultimate enabler. which is why he's deserving of a little rest. :) I just remember stumbling along when I started and so many people being friendly when they didn't need to be - and probably shouldn't have encouraged me ;) - that I think some of the reactions lately from up top have been overly shrill and rather childish.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Older users are getting tired of the un-original content constantly getting featured on here.

Obviously not every top user is complaining, but this site has not changed for the better. And it's quite obvious.
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3 ups
But Spurs, we used to be newbies, and gosh knows we probably posted unoriginal content when we were first on here. And we probably were groused about by the veterans back then. I've found several users come on who weren't great when they started but who improved and got good with a little push. I actually think several newer users came on with a higher quality start than usual. giveuahint is a good example.
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Very well said, Ken. Thank you for being there when I started, along with my buddy supersaiynblueyasir. You inspired me to keep going after I was introduced to this heaven on the web by my school. We all salute you, everyone else on the front page or anywhere else
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0 ups
Yer welcome, but I think you give me too much credit. Thanks for sticking around; too many people see the darker side of the flip and head out. :)
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1 up, 1 reply
Must have been a slip of my typing :P
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1 up
I know the feeling. Sometimes the mechanics of this site are clunky. :)
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1 up
:)
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1 up, 1 reply
Hi kj im back. ( im Dancer_12)
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1 up, 1 reply
Well welcome back. Your brother said you were angry at me and I said to tell you I was confused and didn't know why, but to say I didn't mean anything. :) Everything okay?
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1 up, 1 reply
Not at u me and masq were in a fight and yes it ok we r frinds again
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1 up, 1 reply
That would've been my second question...

How have you been? The move is over?
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1 up, 1 reply
Yes and im good u
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1 up, 1 reply
Fine. Are you still in your old school district?

I have to leave work for the day so I'll talk to you tomorrow...
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1 up, 1 reply
Ok and yes haply i am sorry if im on and off im decorateing my room
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1 up, 1 reply
No problem, of course.
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1 up, 1 reply
Thx nice to see ur still the same old kj
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0 ups
Gosh, I hope so. :)
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2 ups, 1 reply
Now now, Meme-osis, I'm not imposing rules; in fact the point I'm making is that there shouldn't be any rules imposed from on high. And they're certainly not 'rules' - I'm just pointing out that grumpy old farts would like things to remain like the halcyon days that never really existed. I WANT people to enjoy imgflip in their own way, and for some top users to think before whining about it (though it's their right to do so if they want). I'm kinda making the same point you are there. Only without the man bun. XD
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1 up, 1 reply
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, but it just seems to me, first it's no down votes, then no complaining about reposts, etc. etc. who knows to what ridiculousness that will lead to, like pro Hillary memes!!!
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2 ups, 1 reply
My advocation was to time-limit memes, not to do away with them. When others mentioned doing away with them I argued they helped in some instances. And as a free speech extremist I'd never ask anyone never to complain; I'm just saying think about what you're complaining about since you were once a newbie too. I never say DON'T do things, just think about them. If I wanted to restrict people from their freedoms I'd have to start voting Republican...
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1 up, 1 reply
Well sort of, unless you want to restrict religious freedoms, or second amendment freedoms, or economic freedoms, or freedom in education, etc. etc. in that case you have to vote blue :)
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2 ups
That's a mightily conservative-sounding list, Meme-osis. I guess we can just leave it at one man's freedom is another man's annoyance. :)
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