Change My Mind

??????? how is it socialism?

well...the root def of soc is that everybody involved works towards a common goal, and you reap based upon what you have sewn. if you dont work, you dont eat. dont confuse soc with com. nor is red....also , true soc has universal income caps.

socialism doesn't believe in "reap what you sow" the state takes everything and redistributes it evenly.

capitalism is "reap what you sow' and also has a common goal, to prosper. All capitalists want money and to gain wealth, status and luxury. they only get or give what they have earned through labor or the market and cannot have anything they gain taken by the state for redistribution, as you have seen, America is a socialist corporatism and yet preaches the free market as if it had a true capitalism. Universal income caps also cause strife economically as there is less incentive to work harder because you get the same money as the janitor down the hall if your an executive. Also it causes strife based on the fact that the state still takes that money to redistribute it to the army, clinics and the governments coffers. Capitalism does not have a cap and many companies will compete with one another to get the most employee's by offering higher pay and benefits.

also to the idea that soc and com are different, modern communism is akin to socialism as Karl marx put both together to create a power pyramid that put him on top of the working class and to get everyone equal benifits due to the workers effort. But by reducing pay and ownership of property he made the citizens way of life miserable and hard. Famines, poor healthcare and homelessness of the working class was common and has occurred everywhere communism and socialism has been totally implemented.

as of the main question. The stock market is not a socialism, it is a form of corporatism that allows for some civillian interaction by buying and selling stocks which give the idea that you are earning money by investing in a company, this however if not the case. The company owners will most of the time own the majority of stocks and thus they retain the most power, meaning you are earning money but the money you invest is used by the company to further their income rather than yours. so it is not a socialist system as it is also voluntary.

pppfffft.... stop watching tv kid. and i mean "kid". capitalism is "communism". a: who then f**k mentioned capitalism. b: who the f**k mentioned the usa... to quote merriame-webster, "Definition of socialism. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property". just dont...

"any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."

yes. as I said before its government obtainment and distribution by force.

a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property".

yes. as I said there is no private property.

also You mentioned the stock market which is a corporatism not a socialism
and to talk about socialism and corporatism one must also discuss capitalism.

for pete sake .... you win. heres ur up

and from viewers like you ... thank you

ummm yes. the stock market is socialism. n everyone else agrees ....except you.you prob still believe the ussr was a communism. marx never wouldve written the manifesto had he thought hed be part of the prol instead of the boug. i say this to shed light on the fact that the meaning gets manipulated, true soc is work then eat

a "government" is your people, your money. it belongs to everybody. stop feeding the 1%

do you even know how the 1% works kid?

yes, n this child knows that due to overwhelming monopoly that 60% of the worlds pop has to kick n scream over 40% of the resources. im assured your an atheist....or a jew whom dont believe in a hell or consequence

I happen to be a Deist. I am also a rational thinker who doesnt use petty insults to win an argument. I also am most likely older than you judging by your expectency to win this argument via childish deflection of the truth. The 1% is used to determine the 1% of people who in the previous year earned the most money. The people do not stay in the 1% as it is mearly a measure of income from the year before and not a organization or people taking your money. the 1% worked for their money and deserve to keep it, they owe us lesser folk nothing. If you want the money they have you must work to become in the 1%.

Also monopolies only occur in the presence of big government that relies on bribes and lobbying for their agendas. Communist economies rely solely on monopolization or in their own words "planned economy".

now your thinking....... a little. but you keep thinking of ideology with government in mind. remember...its your money, your in charge. not a faceless government. its obvious that anybody in a political seat or throne of power has money. what i was saying...in the meme... is if everybody invest...they will all reap. the original concept of socialism. sorry bout the theology shot

!% = monopoly by def. and jew n athiest is not name calling. and over 99.8% of the !% were inherited into fortune....not by hard work. monopolies are over barenly present throughout the world....unless you live in a democratic socialism..like say sweden... oooh n im not broke. im apart of the 1%

then you should know that the 1% is just the name of the tax bracket. If you are attempting to tell me that sweden is a prime example of a free socialism you are mistaken. The laws are struct, the people have little to no freedom and the only citizens that have any real freedom are immigrants and leftists. The only way to erase the 1% is to eliminate taxes entirely. No taxes means no tax brackets and therefor by design no 1%. also you seemed to ignore the fact that monopolies are part of socialist "planned economy" principles.