IF THE HUMAN SCIENTISTS ETC WERE TRUMPED WHAT WOULD THE ATHS AND AGS DO? ADMIT HATING GOD AND LOVING SIN IS THE REAL ISSUE? :D

Think in terms of making the most learned and intelligent humans look like ignorant children by comparison. :D

Of course they would be subject to inherent creaturely limitations. But the aliens show up with a way greater understanding of the nature of the creation and feel no moral or spiritual offense toward giving credit, honor, glory love and service to the Creator. And they are unimpressed by human knowledge and technology because they are so advanced beyond it.

the atheists and agnostics i know don't seem to feel moral or spiritual offense if others give glory to a creator. perhaps we're further along than you thought?

Then some humans would be more advanced still in some areas.

Not necessarily.

But probably. Let's just say if we ask those aliens how their FTL engine works "godmagic" will likely not be the answer. lmao

What are you talking about? Faster Than Light engine as advanced technology. Sentient beings who make our technology look primitive and the smarty smarties who happen to be aths and ags that other a's and a's treat as proof (while hating brilliant theists!) looking like ignorant children. These superadvanced aliens wd be a bit of a difficulty for certain ppl.

Well I mean they'd prove that we aren't the crown of creation and Earth isn't the center of the universe for one thing.^^

The more we know about the universe, the less religious we will become, since god doesn't exist and theists have to hide him in what we don't know in the manner of "god of the gaps".
So if you have an alien that believes in a god that hides somewhere in the realm of what it doesn't know and you have a human who already accepts that god does not exist, the human is more advanced in his thinking. He came to the right conclusion and escaped theist propaganda far earlier than the alien did.

Do you believe the universe came to be out of absolutely nothing or that something and/or someone is self-existent? There are no other possibilities and I'm not going to waste my time if you try to play games. Nothing personal. :D

Well both are possible actually. Since we don't know what "nothing" looks like, the universe might well have come from nothing. I mean that something must come from something is an axiome we derive from universal laws, who wouldn't exist if there was nothing.
But it might also be that the universe was simply "always" there in its pre-form before the big bang.

Either way, I know that magic is not responsible for creating the universe, since we know that magic does not exist. Therefore it cannot be god.

I will not waste my time. If you can't even start with as basic a presupposition as the fact that nothing comes from nothing I will not play games. Good day.

That could be interesting