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I want to start a discussion about a very serious issue. Here is my hypothesis... | ABORTION IS MURDER | image tagged in captain obvious | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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seems like a good way to start a friendly discussion. ;-)
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Are you will to pay more in taxes to make sure every child born is this country has food, shelter, healthcare and an education? If you answer no to any of those questions you need to rethink your morals.
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You assume incorrectly that all children born will require socialistic handouts to be raised to adulthood. Maybe that's your socialist wet dream. Reality is, most people who have kids work for a living and raise them to be self-sufficient rather than leeches on welfare.
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And you assume all women are broodmares of the state. Unable to make choices on their own. Pay up or shut up.
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The paying thing isn't even my point. I'm saying that all lives matter, even the ones who are unborn. Money doesn't matter when it comes to keeping a human alive. You might want to rethink your counter argument.
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BTW my goal has been reached lol.
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You are welcome to your opinion, but I suggest you get off your ass and defend your statement. And objecting to abortion is only part of the argument. You say all live matters? You do you support the death penalty? Do you support war against ISIS? Is it religious grounds?

I do not want there to be abortions, but who am I to tell any woman she is not allowed to control her own body and that is what it boils down to.

What I hate more than words can describe is those that argue that the government has no right in their lives, but wants a government to take that same right from others. Its called hypocrisy and it is truly the deadliest sin.
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"who am I to tell any woman she is not allowed to control her own body". I see a problem with that statement. The problem is that the woman has her body, and the baby has it's body. The only difference is that the baby's body is inside the mother's body. Besides that, the baby is a 100% independent body that relies on the mother for the first 9 months. Every woman should have control over their body, I agree with that statement, but when it involves the baby, there are 2 solutions that can avoid abortion.

1: Don't do "it".

2: Become a proud mother. Although I highly recommend the first solution if you are low-income.

BTW, I do support the war on ISIS, because you cannot take away everybody else's right to live without taking away your own.
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If the argument is all life is sacred, you can't say, but with exceptions. I don't believe life is sacred. Nor do I believe it is fair. And the op is welcome to his opinion, but when you actually want to make abortion illegal, you better be ready to take full responsibility for the people you just made slaves of the state because you decided you know better than they do when it comes to controlling their body.

And I have children and grandchildren, but the women that brought them into this world made that choice. The only choice I had was to keep it in my pants if I didn't want kids.
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The problem is that yes, all life is sacred in my opinion, but people are taking away people's right to live. The only exception to the all life is sacred idea is if you take someone else's life. Then you killed someone, therefore making your right to life void.

Making abortion illegal would not make people slaves of the state. If you outlaw all abortion unless those necessary to save the life of the mother, there would be more people being born, meaning more people to enter the workforce. As the workforce grows, more money is made by the industry, which the government can then use to support welfare for people with disabilities or low income.

Now back to the woman controlling their body issue, because I see you used that again. As I said, the baby is not part of the woman's body, despite it being connected and dependent on the woman's body. The woman can control her body, but she cannot control the baby.
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Life is not sacred. we all die.

And more people in the workforce? Ask the Chinese how well being an extra person is in the workforce. Nothing like having to set up nets to stop the workers from killing themselves.

When did workers become valuable and therefore able to demand better treatment? After the Black Death (some sacred life huh?) killed off a huge number of the population.

But remember this if you are an American, you have the right to go to your church and believe as you will, but you do not have the right to force that religion on someone that does not share it.
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Life is not sacred. Why should I care whether I shove religion down your throat? It doesn't bother me and your life is no more important than any other life, which is to say not important at all. Life is not sacred. Let's make abortion illegal and let the babies starve. We'd get more baby organs that way for the people who want them. And if the mothers die from labor, the doctors can sell their organs too. Not like their lives are sacred or anything, and they are alll going to die sometime. Why not now?
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