This is important, and needs to be shared to as many people as you can on imgflip. It should strike something in all memers

Wow this is sad... I thought imgflip users were more mature now than before (I think there are more older users than before too). At least it appears to be only one major unsavory user. When I see a political meme I disagree with, I almost never downvote it. I don't upvote it but, hey, it's their opinion. It's not a good reason to a political meme.

Hey don't let the troll manipulate you into thinking I'm one.

Sith is using alt accounts to troll me and several other users simply because he disagrees.

Me because he's mad that I exposed him.

The strange thing about you showing up here is that I just saw your stream last night and UV'ed it. (I love Cash.)

Banana is helping the troll unfortunately.

The "treaty" they mentioned isn't an official site thing.

I didn't sign it because one, that's just virtue signalling, and two, the guy who made it trolled me with alts a while back(like over 6 months ago).

He admitted it then, but might deny that now. And I don't know if he likes me now.

He never asked me to sign that treaty though.

I'm just exposing Sith as the alt using troll he is.

Once that's done, I can go back to actually enjoying the site. :{D

Tetsuoswrath, I am not "helping" him or you. I am on my own. I am currently a middle man. I just want both of you to get along. Just forget about this conflict for now, will ya. I don't want conflict at all. Whoever the troll is, we really don't know yet. Renegade and you both have been complaining about a troll for a while now. Maybe... Just maybe.... The troll isn't either of you two. It may be someone else entirely, like those people who just join imgflip to downvote other users. PLEASE stop this war. PLEASE! It needs to be over NOW. That was the whole purpose of me making this meme in the first place.

Bro I'll be helping out. Don't you worry, I'll be upvoting as much of his content and your content as I can. Also, I saw the discussion below. Tetsuowrath, go douse yourself in horse shit. Imgflip doesn't have room for lil bches like you.

Sith is using alt accounts to troll Imgflip. Natalie IS ONE OF HIS ALTS.

Don't let him manipulate you into thinking he's a victim.

He's just mad that someone he thought he could use for points took a screen cap of all the stupid shit he admitted to.

And dude, you can spell bitches, it will self censor. :{D

Natalie isn't. I know that much. You need to just chill out. :)

It's possible for all of us, EXCLUDING people like Sith that use alts to troll and harass and dv his enemies and uv himself.

Other than that, I'm fine with the site and have no beefs with anyone that isn't lying about me.

Stop saying that I need to chill out over something this severe.

You're trying to make it look like a little rule breaking when it's more like he screwed with more than 10 people's comment reps and gave himself who knows how many points.

Again, siding with him knowing this is being complicit. :{

I agree with most of what you said. I want to avoid conflict. We ALL need to at least attempt to get along. :)

This is the comment of a truly great person. :)

I'm not sure what kind of help you're looking for but I don't get involved in private disputes with users (as much as I can help it). I think the best advice I can give to you is maybe to do the same, especially since you don't have all the information about the situation. I hope that helps.

Okay. I'll do that. It's probably for the best. Tetsuoswrath won't leave me alone now, until I admit that he's right though. Thanks Socrates! :)

If you stopped replying to him and stopped writing comments about him or what you think he's doing on the site, I assume it would make it less likely that he'd reply to your comments. I hope that helps.

okay. So when he responds to me, I just ignore him? That makes sense. :)

It's up to your judgment. But it's a good general tip that usually works if someone is replying to you and you want them to stop.

But if you're going to do that, I think it's also important not to make comments about that user to other people. If you write stuff about someone to other people, that person may want to reply to those comments to defend themselves.

okay

It's up to you what you do though obviously.

That isn't true.

I only responded to your comments.

Don't follow Sith's example. :{

It looks like the downvoters are here too. lol.

That's one of his alt accounts dude.

don't fall for it like I did. :{D

Thanks, I appreciate it.

No problem, you deserve all the support you can get.

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So how did you determine you were right?

Sith is an alt using troll.

I gave you the proof.

You act like it's not proof.

So you're willfully complicit with trolling and using alt accounts to troll people and uv yourself.

That doesn't look good.

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You say it's final and I assume you don't want to talk about it anymore.

So I assume you won't respond.

But I'm going to ask anyway.

How did you first know or prove to yourself that Sith was a victim?

You never asked me my side in all this, so why ASSUME Sith is telling the truth?

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DID YOU NOT HEAR WHAT I SAID BEFORE???????????? I SAID I LOOSE!!! I GIVE UP!!! YOU WIN!!!! PLEASE STOP THE VIOLENCE TOWARDS ME NOW!!!!! I DON"T CARE ABOUT YOUR STUPID EVIDENCE, BECAUSE I ALREADY LOST!!!!!!!!

You don't care that Sith is using alt accounts and cheating? :{O

No, not at this point at all!

Oh I see.

So if I make say 10 alt accounts and troll your profile and memes and comments, that must be okay too? :{O

NO NOT AT ALL! I QUIT THIS DISSCUSSION. YOUR POINTS MAKE SENSE. I GIVE UP. YOU WIN! I DON'T WANT THIS WAR TO CONTINUE ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't you understand? It's been going on for far too long.

Okay, but you keep calling this a war though and keep implying I'm as guilty as an alt using troll like Sith.

That's the problem.

And you have been doing that this whole time.

You make yourself SEEM like another alt account.

we already know he has several, so it wouldn't surprise me that you are too.

Either way, I won't respond or comment to you if you stop lying or stop implying that I'm somehow guilty of something here.

Okay? :{

You are not guilty. You win. Your evidence makes sense. I was WRONG. You are a good and bad person. I am a good and bad person. Renedage_Sith can be at some times a good and bad person. As humans, we all make mistakes. My big mistake was creating this meme right here, and causing this big comment session. I will try my best to refrain from getting involved in any future conflicts like this, and hope you may do so as well. At this point, I am too tired of arguing with you to even care about Renegade, -no offense to him. I just figure that if you care so much about this argument, then you must be right. Please, please, please understand me here. In real life, we might have been friends. It's just one mistake that I made that ruined everything. I hope that you can forgive me - BananaMan :( (also your points make better sense than mine, and you are a good person overall) Had to add that last part in to ease the conflict even more :)

Thanks.

It's not an argument. He broke rules and is using alts.

And you didn't have to apologize to me. I have no conflict with you.

Just letting you know about the troll. :{D

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He's just using you for points dude.

He's used alt accounts to troll half of Imgflip.

Don't let him manipulate you. :{D

I'm curious, how many of you all signed the treaty? I know for a fact that Natalie and I did, what about you two? Did you sign the treaty? What we need is for both of you guys to just accept your differences and move on. So what if maybe he's trolling, because you are probably the same, but for different reasons. Can't we all just get along?

What's this "treay" imgflip users keep referring to? Could I have a link to it?

It was a very old meme from a few months ago. I forgot who posted it, but nearly every top memer signed it. I think it was created by one of those leading top memers though. I don't think tetsuoswrath signed it, so that's why I'm suspicious. The whole idea of the treaty was to unite the imgflip community, and only downvote, when someone is offending you, or others, or if they are tormenting another user. (stuff like profanity in the comment section for no reason, whatsoever) What do you think of the idea? Also I have suspicions of tetsuoswrath, because I never linked this meme to him. Natalie saw it, because she had previously commented on the meme that I linked this meme to. What do you think of all of this?

Interesting. I personally think tetsuoswrath is begging for attention. He can do so by trolling people and accusing them of things. Sometimes he does have a legitimate point, but other times it is mere speculation that he is basing his arguments on. Also, it seems that he won't accept that others moght not agree with them, so he keeps trying to convince people that he's right. Even if he is right, there will still be people who resent him. So basically I think he is a troll who needs attention, and he sure is getting it.

might* Sorry.

You've never spoken to me before, yet you're judging me.

I'm doing this because it's right. Not because I'd go up a single slot on the LB.

I don't appreciate that you're judging me and not Sith either.

It's like you don't even have all the facts straight, and are jumping the gun to blame the person exposing a troll instead of the troll.

I advise you to read more of the info first next time. :{

That was just my conclusion based on what I've seen in the comments. I may very well be wrong.

I am not particularly fond of Sith either. BananaMan just asked what I thought, and I gave him my honest opinion.

Silver lining: At least you're honest.

I'm just exposing the trolls.

I hope you can understand that I'm not doing this as a vendetta.

I still liked all those Cash memes on your stream too. :{D

Thanks. I looked through some of your memes. They're pretty good and funny.

About the trolls: I don't really think what you are doing is helping at all, since trolls "feed" on arguments and such. Since you are going after Sith and his alts, and you keep at it, it just appears (at least to me) that you are trolling and asking for attention. Sometimes just dropping it is the best thing to do. (you probably already know this, but I thought I'd just share what I know).

I'd agree to drop it if this hasn't happened to me so many times before.

Me and the other users helping are tired of trolls like Sith, so we're doing what the mods should be.

I think if you were in my shoes you'd agree.

And yeah, to a random observer not investing enough research into the situation, I can see it LOOKING like trolling.

Thanks for checking my memes out. Glad you liked some too. :{D

Definitely. And he is silently threatening us with downvotes, I assume.

whoa whoa whoa.

The POINT is that Sith is using alt accounts to troll.

He admitted that. I showed you a screen cap of that.

Natalie IS ONE OF HIS ALTS.

Look at how "she" claimed I said I'd rape her. That right there should be sending up red flags for you dude.

I can get along with you, because you haven't been using alt accounts to troll A SHIT TON of people.

Notice this meme has only 5 votes in a day? That's because people around the site know who/what Sith is.

He's playing you dude.

You think he's a victim which is exactly what he wants you to think. :{

Now I know you're lying. Especially, because this is one of the first ever memes of mine that Renegade's ever commented on. Natalie has commented on almost all of them. If Natalie were renegade, then why would "he" only comment on my memes using Natalie's account. Also you are avoiding my entire question. I asked "Did you sign the treaty?" I want an answer. It also doesn't make sense that your comments on this meme are getting are getting so much upvotes, when here, no one at all has defended you. The only thing that you've accomplished (and at this point I don't care if you go ham on me with all of your accounts down voting all of my memes) is making me want to avoid you at all costs. You are not like any other memer on this site. Memers like Dashhopes, Raydog, Socrates, Juicydeath1025, and more would recognize this situation, and try to put a cap on it. Thanks for letting me know who the real troll, who is the cause of this meme not getting featured by the way. ;) What we really need is a new treaty to sign, one that BOTH of you can sign, (even though I'm pretty sure Renegade already has) that will stop this downvote war once and for all. I bet in real life, you are a great, smart, and creative person, but here, if there is anything that you can learn from a highschool freshman, it is this: Don't use your creative and amazing talents for the sole purpose of bringing people down, instead, help them up, support them, once you do this, and you yourself have reached a state of friendliness towards, then and only then, can you distinguish who the real "bad guy" is.

still waiting for a response lol!

Did you read my last 2 comments to you yet?

I'm also waiting on a response from you on that.

I mean, you called me a liar, which I didn't, but then you lied to me?

That's odd.

You said Sith only commented on this meme, but he's commented on others you made.

And you said that "natalie" commented on "almost all" of your memes but she only commented on 10/96 of them.

So which is it?

Are you sure you want to keep defending a troll like Sith? :{D

I said MOST. There's a big difference ya know. I said MOST again for the Natalie thing. But, since you are being such a brat about this, at this point it can only mean one of two things: A: You signed the treaty and you want to stop all downvoting wars, but there was just one huge misunderstanding here. And B: You are the real troll. You did not sign the treaty, and are being so persistent, to mess up sith, because he did something wrong to you in the past on this site. (on both of these, Natalie is NOT sith, It just wouldn't makes sense.) Which one best fits you? At this point, even though a lot of the points you made are trash, I am willing to at least read what you have to say. Let's just all get along here, and chill out like civilized people. :) We all deserve a break.

Most would mean more than half at least.

You're not listening kid. He's using alt accounts to troll people he hates and upvote himself.

Natalie IS one of his alt accounts.

Stop refusing the facts and choosing to lie with false virtue.

My points are solid.

You're the one being immature by siding with an alt using troll like Sith kid.

If you're going to turn a blind eye to him willingly it's on you for being complicit with that kind of behavior. :{

Which is it closer to? A or B? Maybe a little bit of both? I want an answer. Please :)

It's neither kid.

Look, you're not listening to the information.

Stop avoiding the truth, or trying to be lenient on his behavior.

It's not acceptable anymore. :{

At this point I don't know what the TRUTH is! Stop trying to make me believe something that I really don't know what the whole truth of it is!

No kid. I never made any alt accounts.

why not get your facts straight BEFORE accusing me of something you're not even sure of yourself?

The only conflict here is that there are two sides:

The one that is AGAINST alt using and trolling.

And the one that is FOR alt using and trolling.

So far you've sided with an alt using troll, so we know where you stand. :{

I am siding with who I think is right. That's final!

Okay

So wait, you don't know what the truth is, but you said Sith was 100% correct and are trying to tell OM and others that I'm the one trolling?

You keep acting like I'm being unreasonable when Sith used alt accounts to troll the site and upvote himself.

Sorry kid, you're now complicit with an alt using troll.

You're trying to help him out and condone that behavior.

So I guess I can make alt accounts now to do the same, by YOUR own logic.

Sith is an alt using troll and is going to be removed from the site.

The sane non alt using users are going to get rid of any alt using trolls.

It's not acceptable anymore. :{

Wait... I thought you already did... Lol! I thought you both did! Please tell me this is all one big joke! PLEASE NO MORE CONFLICT!!!!!!!!

You're a lying sack of shit and you know it. I never admitted to using alts to troll anyone, I said I used them to fix my comment rep because I was being attacked by trolls.

I didn't even say anything to him, he made this meme all on his own.

Where's your backup? Not a single person has defended you LMAO!

Renegade, you are 100% correct.

I'm sorry you let him manipulate you into thinking he's a victim dude.

And no dude, I don't use alt accounts or troll.

I'm okay with you not believing me.

But if you disagree with Sith he's going to start dv'ing you too.

I haven't been able to meme comment since last Friday.

Remember that he said he need alts to "battle these sons of bitches"?

But then he claimed just now that he never admitted to using the alts to troll?

That's obvious. If you can't see it or refuse to, it's on you when the dude turns on you.

And look at how he's trying to claim I'm racist.

I made a cave woman Michelle Obama and he's trying to construe that as a racist joke.

That's desperation.

All I ask is that you really go through his comments and his alt's comments.

You should be able to see what the majority of the site is seeing about him.

Hell, ask anyone he's trolled. There's tons.

Octavia melody, ttony, libtard, guser43, opanirl, blackattack, me, etc.

Look here: imgflip.com/i/1k2yru for more proof. :{D

looking at the list of memers... Hm... It looks like they're all liberals..!

So?

I'm a conservative and he attacks me.

Octavia is an atheist and he attacks OM(Sith says he's an atheist).

He attacks me because I don't want to eradicate Islam or be a bigot.

He attacks OM because OM's a liberal.

And don't you think it's odd that he's calling these people he's attacked trolls? If he trolled them?

I don't agree with their liberal ideals, but I don't want to see a troll like Sith attacking them on a daily basis like he has been the whole time he's been here.

I find it really odd that you're defending him AFTER being given this proof too.

You're enabling a troll to troll more by not using better discretion.

And claiming I'm lying AFTER I gave proof isn't doing you any favors.

It just makes you complicit with a troll like Sith.

And technically, you're lying.

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You said that Sith has only commented on this meme you made about him. That's not true. He's commented on a meme you made that "natalie" also just happened to comment on.

So, be careful calling someone else a liar, okay. Especially when you're wrong.

And just look at his comments.

And his line about "why would I use you for points".

Isn't it obvious?

He'd just get more points faster using alts.

And look at how much he asks for points. Do you think you're the only one he asked? Nope.

He's asked me and others to help him out ALL THE TIME.

But hey, if you're okay with a troll like that, go ahead, by all means.

I know I wouldn't want to be guilty by association. :{D

chill dude, just chill. Settle your differences with him, and move on. :) You both deserve a break from all that downvoting.

This is something he brought on himself.

If you can't understand that, I'm sorry. :{D

But it is also something that you brought on yourself. You need to go to him on one of his memes, and ask for an apology, and You need to apologize to him too, (even though you may think it is not your place to do so). Boom - Bango -pow! - Conflict solved. :)

No kid, this isn't anything on me.

This is all on him.

He used alt accounts to troll. Listen.

And no kid, don't expect this to be forgive and forget.

This site has had these users before. They're going.

I DO want to have fun and laugh and meet like minded memers.

I DON'T want to let his kind of behavior be rewarded.

He shouldn't have been such a terrible user. :{

Don't hate me for this please: look at his memes, Let him do his own thing. Just forget about the past for a moment, and let the future take you under its wings. :)

Here's another of your memes that Sith commented on a month ago:

imgflip.com/i/1i501h

And I looked at your memes.

"Natalie" has only commented on 10 of your newest memes. That's 10/96. That's barely 10% of your memes and you claimed "almost all".

You said:

"Now I know you're lying. Especially, because this is one of the first ever memes of mine that Renegade's ever commented on. Natalie has commented on almost all of them. If Natalie were renegade, then why would "he" only comment on my memes using Natalie's account. "

But as you and anyone else can see you are either lying or are mistaken. :{D

And he claims I want to use you for points? Why would I need someone for points if I have so many alts? Lol, this dude is such a bad liar.

I know right!

He's got a couple of trolls attacking me. Funny how none of the real users on this site will defend him.