Yoda explains Star Wars

Yoda explains Star Wars | Yoda explains Episode 7 Episodes 4-6 Yoda explains Episodes 1-3 Yoda explains | image tagged in memes,star wars,star wars yoda,star wars obi wan high,yoda movie review,daddy issues | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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But Thats None Of My Business Meme | A TALKING FROG CONVINCES A SON TO KILL HIS FATHER AND THEN EXPLAINS HIS STORY IN A MEME... BUT THAT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS | image tagged in memes,but thats none of my business,kermit the frog | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Not as good as Who Hash
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Lol. Kermit is close, Grampa is close, but....
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Lol great pic
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But Thats None Of My Business Meme | ACTUALLY EPISODE 7 SHOULD BE GRANDPA ISSUES BUT THAT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS | image tagged in memes,but thats none of my business,kermit the frog | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I see what you're saying. At least I think so (about Kylo Ren and Vader).

But when I made the meme, I had in mind the scene with Kylo Ren and Han. In my mind, that was a more pivotal scene that defined the movie.
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It don't matter what I think, because according to your friend I know shit. However the part between Kylo and Han was a turning point in the film, but Kylo spends more time trying to live up to what he thinks Vader wanted and his whole attitude in the movie was driven off of that.
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I see what you're saying. Honestly I didn't think of it when I was making the meme.
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Ha ha! Take that star wars! Thanks for the mention Socrates. :{
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This is what I wanted Yoda to say about Episode 7, but it didn't really fit with the flow of the meme. :)
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Exactly. I lover it.

They could have still used all the actors and JJ like they did and done the NJO storyline for 7-9 and made the same amount of money. It would even be the perfect setup for 10-12, retaining many characters.

I hate them for trying to outdo Lucas. And for trying to tell me that the books aren't canon. Disney's garbage is the non-canon stuff. :{
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To be fair, you can't watch episode 7 as an individual movie. Only episode 4 can be done that was as it was the only one created to watched by itself. Episodes 1 can't even be watched by itself because it is left open for not knowing who the Sith lord is. So really we shouldn't be judging episode 7 without seeing what they are going to do with 8 and 9.

Less than 1% of all the content in the movies created by Lucas came from the EU, so why should the new trilogy be any different? The theory I have for what will come from the next 2 movies would mean that the Darth Plagueis novel wouldn't fight, which is fitting since they removed it from cannon. And if you think about it as well, how many movies made about books were as good or better than the books themselves? And how many actually stick with the books entirely? So even if they did 7-9 based off the books, I think you would still have found disappointment in the movies.
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I don't know much about the EU anyway, so I don't have a huge personal stake as a viewer if they choose to include it in their movie or not (although I don't think it's respectful, in general, for someone taking over an already successful property to make a point of "changing" or "putting their stamp" on everything).

But the point I'm trying to make with this meme comment is that the bigger issue (for me) is that they took Star Wars - a good, solid property - threw a bunch of money at it, and made a pointless, crappy, insipid movie out of it.

It's easier to forgive people smaller errors if they succeed in something. That isn't the case here, though. Star Wars deserved better than what Episode 7 was.
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I have never stated that 7 was perfect by any stretch of the imagination. I have only stated that it can't be watched as a completely movie on its own and that 8 and 9 are required before fully judging it. I would have preferred if they took the script from Lucas that was offered and used it, but they didn't. Not much we can do about it, except complain like tetsuoswrath keeps doing. And I am just going to stop commenting here now because it is obvious that f**ksowrath is using alts to downvote my comments as I am not allowed to post any meme comments now and have a 20 minute timer between comments. He just can't accept that I have provided evidence that shows he is wrong, and so he has to make it where I can't comment.
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"You was the one who started with trying to insult my intelligence with the first comment, and then again after you tried to claim I didn't read all your responses before responding myself, when in fact the comment you made that on was a continuation of my first response. So stop with your f**king bullshit.

My only proof is me saying something? I have provided images and video footage for my claims. You are the only one who is making claims and expecting everyone to take your word for it.

If you want to try to rebuke my claims, go ahead, but you better have f**king proof for your claims and not just spout non-sense without any evidence of any kind to back your false claims."

*sighs

The offense is all on you kid. You took offense and got butthurt. And started trolling me. Get over your lack of lore "knowledge". You're all butthurt because I'm more of a sw geek/nerd/fan whatever you would call it.

I'll ask ONE more time: are you going to listen if I answer your luke's saber question? :{
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"I'll ask ONE more time: are you going to listen if I answer your luke's saber question?" And I will say ONE more time, I am only going to listen if you provide more than just your f**king word. You have provided ZERO evidence for any of your claims thus far. So go ahead and try, but once again, you better have more than just your word backing your claim.
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""I'll ask ONE more time: are you going to listen if I answer your luke's saber question?" And I will say ONE more time, I am only going to listen if you provide more than just your f**king word. You have provided ZERO evidence for any of your claims thus far. So go ahead and try, but once again, you better have more than just your word backing your claim."

You have yet to show evidence kid.

You misunderstand EVERYTHING I say.

You say it's "proof" with just your words BECAUSE you don't show any logical reasoning to how you got the answer.

The helmet.

You think because you have a photo of the same type helmet with different symbols that it "proves" your point. IT DIDN'T DUDE. AND YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO MY COMMENT.

I said that Luke could have changed squadrons in Disney's fan fic.

It's probably Luke's helmet, and the DOLL is Luke in uniform from when she was little and they still used the old tech.

She's more than likely Luke's daughter, a Skywalker(Luke's grandmother Shmi's family name).

She should be Leia's and be Kylo's twin to be a further amalgam of characters.

As I said, Disney f**ked it up by not just calling them Jacen and Jaina and Luke having a son named Ben. Everything would have been fine then because you could actually FIT IT IN with the EU.

Oh yeah, Luke's saber.

In that video, it shows Luke using the SAME button each time. It's hard to see, but in the scenes where it's clear, it's always the bar called an activation matrix in lore.

The button Finn and the TFA characters keep using is the Blade lengthening DIAL.

The meme comment I'm posting is Lucas Canon. And since Disney's stuff is all fan fiction, I'm sorry dude, it's not in the canon. It's an alternate timeline/universe/reboot. Fan fiction. :{

"you better have more than just your word backing your claim."

Or f**king what kid? :{
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Go back to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ey3g6BmuTI and watch again at 2:10 and you will see 2 times in which Luke turned off the light saber by hitting that button you said only retards play with. There were only a couple times in TFA that the top nob was hit to turn it on. Most every other time it turn on just from them holding it. Your evidence proves nothing.

The Helmet- My images shows one of Luke wearing the helmet in A New Hope and Rey wearing it in TFA. Clearly 2 different helmets. There are 4 aspects of those helmets that I pointed out that are clearly different. The stripes going down the center are different. The color of the symbol is different. Luke's had 2 Vs and Reys had 3 Vs. The symbol on the side is clearly different. How is this not evidence that they are not the same helmet?

"I said that Luke could have changed squadrons in Disney's fan fic." Could have, but no evidence to point that he was still in any squadron after RotJ. All we know of (from what is cannon) is that after RotJ Luke trained others to become jedi.

According to http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rey if you go to the Growing Her Skills section, it actually states that the helmet was of Captain Dosmit Ræh of the starfighter squadron Tierfon Yellow Aces, and the doll she made from scraps from the wreckage.

"She should be Leia's and be Kylo's twin to be a further amalgam of characters." I would only agree to this in the aspect that Lucas was originally planning on Leia and Han having twins. But I don't see that it will be going that way.

"As I said, Disney f**ked it up by not just calling them Jacen and Jaina and Luke having a son named Ben. Everything would have been fine then because you could actually FIT IT IN with the EU." And as I have stated multiple times, none of the story lines in the Lucas movies came from the EU. It got out that Lucas was planning on there being twins, and that is why the EU wrote that. Lucas was not going to copy that from the EU and he most likely was not going to use the same names.

Lightsaber- here is another video you can watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FveJPwoUZeA 0:23 you see Finn turn on the lightsaber and doesn't touch the nob. 1:02 you see Rey turn on the lightsaber without touching the nob. So your claim of "The button Finn and the TFA characters keep using is the Blade lengthening DIAL." has been falsified.

To Be Continued
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No he didn't. I watched it. He uses the BAR not the DIAL.

And no, Finn AND Rey ignite the DIAL.

You still don't listen or even pay attention to what you watch.

Your 2nd paragraph is PROOF of you not reading my comments dumbass.

I said that Luke could have changed squadrons. READ THE COMMENTS.

"Could have, but no evidence to point that he was still in any squadron after RotJ"

I never claimed there is any evidence for that, cause I said it's a THEORY.

And again kid, Disney's stuff isn't canon, it's fan fiction. I'm sorry that you can't grasp that, but it's true.

Okay, so Disney explains the helmet, but NOT THE DOLL.

And again kid, IT IS A THEORY.

And I don't care what Disney does, they SHOULD have made her Jaina. They didn't, hence, they f**ked up star wars.

Dude, you know nothing about Lucas. You're just looking on CURRENT DISNEY wookiepedia.

Lucas TOLD Zahn about the kids. THAT is why the EU incorporated it.

You dumbasses who SAY you're star wars fans always leave out that Lucas helped develop the EU. That's why he wanted the Holocron.

And no kid, that :23 video shows him with his left hand on the rubber guards and his right hand gripping the f**king dial. And Rey does the same exact thing.

You stupid twat.

Look kid, I'm not going any further with you.

YOU DON'T LISTEN.

You're just a butthurt kid who's trolling someone who corrected your dumbass. :{
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"No he didn't. I watched it. He uses the BAR not the DIAL. " You obviously only watched when he turned on the saber. If you go to the point in which I told you to look at, he clearly uses the dial.

"And no, Finn AND Rey ignite the DIAL." False

I would post multiple screenshots for you showing you are wrong, but apparently you are using alts to down vote my comments so I can't do any meme comments. So I guess another link will have to do. https://imgflip.com/i/16i0kp

"Your 2nd paragraph is PROOF of you not reading my comments dumbass." I told you I would listen ONLY if you provided evidence for your claims. What about that don't you understand? No evidence, no reason to listen. It is that simple.

"I never claimed there is any evidence for that, cause I said it's a THEORY." And your theory was proven wrong by evidence from the source.

"Okay, so Disney explains the helmet, but NOT THE DOLL." False. Going back to that link, "She enjoyed making up stories about Ræh's adventures during the war, which was why Rey made a doll out of a flight uniform she found in a cargo container. She often enjoyed wearing the helmet and playing with the doll, pretending she was helping Ræh explore the AT-AT and the sands outside." This was at the age of 10 after she was dropped off on Jakku. Maybe you should take the time to read the evidence that is presented instead of just dismissing it.

"And I don't care what Disney does, they SHOULD have made her Jaina. They didn't, hence, they f**ked up star wars." Your OPINION doesn't f**king matter.

"Dude, you know nothing about Lucas. You're just looking on CURRENT DISNEY wookiepedia." I studied up on Lucas long before Disney bought Star Wars, so don't try to claim shit about me you know nothing about.

Your the f**king butthurt asshole who doesn't f**king listen when evidence is piling up against you.
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**Continued**

""you better have more than just your word backing your claim."

Or f**king what kid? :{" You want me to listen, I said I will only listen if you provide evidence. Unfortunately 90% of your claims in this comment were without any evidence. I have provided multiple links to information, video footage, and images that have all backed my claims and disproved yours. So you want to know "or f**king what"? Well that is simple. There is no reason for me to listen to a damn thing you have to say because you expect everyone to agree with you 100% based off of your word alone. That is not going to happen. My evidence backs up everything I have stated. Your lack of evidence does nothing but make you look like a fool. Game Over. Goodbye kid.
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Actually, each sw film is meant to function as a stand alone film, at least in Lucas's sw.

TPM is quite watchable.

And I can totally judge Disney's f**k ups by TFA alone. They ruined sw by not incorporating its EU.

And 7 suffers from the obvious UN agenda of promoting "diversity" when star wars did that before it was mandated by the media.

"Less than 1% of all the content in the movies created by Lucas came from the EU"

I highly doubt the science behind that figure. Coruscant is in A LOT of Lucas's sw. Eps 1-3, both Clone wars, and Rebels(started before Lucas sold sw).

And to educate you, 7 takes A LOT from the EU, but mashes it up in amalgams of characters.

Kyp Durron and Jacen Solo combined to be Kylo Ren. They even call him Ben like Luke's son in the EU.
Tenel Ka and Jaina Solo made Rey. Rey even fights with a staff like Ka.
Captain Phasma's look is copied form Dark Troopers.
Poe is an amalgam of Corran Horn and wedge.
The First Order is based off the Imperial Remnant from the EU.

Snoke is probably based off the cloned Emperor.

"The theory I have for what will come from the next 2 movies would mean that the Darth Plagueis novel wouldn't fight, which is fitting since they removed it from cannon."

Actually, they only said that the books AFTER ROTJ were removed. And since Palpatine mentions Plagueis in Ep3...it's clearly still canon to Disney.

Snoke is most likely a cloned Emperor OR Plagueis. Knowing Disney's inability to be original.

"And if you think about it as well, how many movies made about books were as good or better than the books themselves?"

Jurrasic Park is AS GOOD as the novel. It's not better, but it's as good.

2001: A Space Odyssey is better than the book. IMO.

I haven't read the Harry Potter books, but thankfully I don't have to, because of the films being fairly close to them as I'm told by fans of the novels.

"And how many actually stick with the books entirely?"

Only the films that stuck as close to the source material are good. And the point is that they SHOULD be sticking to the source material.

You're just making excuses for Disney's lack of creative genius.

"So even if they did 7-9 based off the books, I think you would still have found disappointment in the movies."

Then you'd be wrong. I loved watchmen despite it being slightly different from the GN. I loved the Crow even though it didn't follow the comics as well. Same with the first TMNT film. I loved it, and it wasn't accurate. :{
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Only 4 could be watched individually. Try watching 2, 3, 5, or 6 by themselves and you find too much missing. 4 was the only one created as an individual movie with a complete ending all of its own incase it didn't do that well. Episode 1 in a way could be watch by itself, but there was too much left open in the end. Without any of the other movies, would Anakin fulfill his destiny, who was the sith lord, how would Anakin's training go? All this and more is left open on purpose to allow for future films. Of course some of the same could be said about episode 4 in that wondering if Luke would complete his training, and what happened to Vader. Which if you really look at the comparisons of 1 and 4, even Lucas didn't have much originality within his own films. 7 was not created as a stand alone movie and shouldn't be watched that way. It is obvious by the amount of stuff left open for the next movies. What is going to happen between Rey and Luke? When will Finn wake up and what kind of consition will he be in. What is Rey's true origin? What is Snooke's plan with Kylo? There is too much left open to say it is a complete movie.

If Star Wars always promoted diversity in the past, why are you saying it is being mandated now? Only because it is owned by Disney and directed by JJ?

How much of Coruscant is pulled from the EU besides the name? What I have read on it is Lucas saw the name in the novels, as he had not given it a name in the original series, and therefor used it in 1-3 to not cause major problems. But what else abou Coruscant was really pulled from the EU? There was also the table on the Falcon pulled from the EU, the name of Chewie's home world, and what a couple other names. You look at the entire content of everything from Lucas's Star Wars and you are going to tell me that a significant percentage of the EU was used? I highly doubt that. Only that stuff you mentioned used from the EU was in 7, which means more of the EU was used than what you have credited. Looking at 1-6 only, how much was used?

Go back and look at what is said to be cannon and you will see the novel about Darth Plagueis was removed. Just because he was mentioned in 3 doesn't mean that novel is going to be kept. The reason I think this is is because in the novel it states that he wasn't successful in creating life from the midichlorians, which wouldn't match what was said in episode 3.
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I'm sorry dude, but you're wrong.

Lucas said himself that each film is meant to be a standalone film.

And just because your opinion of a standalone film doesn't line up, doesn't mean they're not.

A standalone film is like saying a single episode of Star Trek. Each episode that isn't a 2 or 3 parter, is a standalone story that still links up with the rest of the series' overall narrative.

Just like Star wars films.

"even Lucas didn't have much originality within his own films"

How do you figure that? Just because he has influences, doesn't mean he isn't original.

The laser sword is HIS idea. The Jedi/Sith, the cultures of all the planets in the films alone. He had to okay all the ship designs. And he worked closely with Ralph to get the concept art fleshed out.

And you think there isn't much "originality" in his films? Compared to who? Because I can show you how ANY writer uses influences.

"7 was not created as a stand alone movie and shouldn't be watched that way."

That's because Disney is stupid and thinks they're better than Lucas.

" It is obvious by the amount of stuff left open for the next movies."

But your definition of a standalone film isn't the same as George Lucas's. As I've explained.

"There is too much left open to say it is a complete movie."

Now you're conflating terms. Of course all the sw films, including Disney's fan fic TFA, are "complete films". They are all even standalone films.

The term standalone film is saying that you can watch one without watching all of them and still be entertained. The amount of questions left at the end doesn't mean they're not.

The Matrix for example is a standalone film despite having sequels. And was made that way.

"If Star Wars always promoted diversity in the past, why are you saying it is being mandated now? Only because it is owned by Disney and directed by JJ?"

There is no "if". Star wars had a female protagonist who wasn't a regular prissy girl for the 70's. She was a bad-ass who killed several stormtroopers and didn't let men tell her what to do or think.

Star wars also had not only an alien as a main character, but 2 robots as well, that represented the homosexual community.

If? lol sw was diverse before hw made a big stink about every little thing.

JJ has nothing to do with my comment on diversity. He's probably a racist in private.

Disney though, is promoting a feminist and pagan cultural ideal. Look at ALL their recent films. TBC.... :{
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The irony is that Disney got rich/famous off of being racist and sexist, but now tries to appeal to people's emotions by feigning moral high ground. ROFL!

"How much of Coruscant is pulled from the EU besides the name?"

Literally everything. BUT, Coruscant is based off of Imperial Center, Lucas's original name for the planet. But it's still a mainly EU concept being used by Lucas.

"What I have read on it is Lucas saw the name in the novels, as he had not given it a name in the original series, and therefor used it in 1-3 to not cause major problems. But what else abou Coruscant was really pulled from the EU?"

See above.

"There was also the table on the Falcon pulled from the EU"

I'm assuming you mean the name of holochess? Or Dejarik? They weren't mentioned on screen at all, so why did you bring that up?

"the name of Chewie's home world, and what a couple other names"

Since you clearly aren't as into sw lore as I am, you don't know what you're talking about. Not trying ot be rude, but you don't. There are a ton of ships, species, creatures, places, etc. that Lucas used.

Reading a single wikipedia/wookiepedia page isn't going to give you knowledge of sw lore. Especially since Disney got a hold of it and started going through the wookiepedia pages and altering them to fit their fan fic.

" You look at the entire content of everything from Lucas's Star Wars and you are going to tell me that a significant percentage of the EU was used? I highly doubt that. "

But that just shows that you don't know as much as I do on this. You seem to think the percentage is only 1% remember?

"Only that stuff you mentioned used from the EU was in 7, which means more of the EU was used than what you have credited. "

That's because you misunderstood my comment.

I'm saying that Disney ruined 7-9 and anthologies by not using the established lore's storyline. Just because they're uncreative and ripped off the EU to make all their characters and events doesn't mean they used the EU like they should have, or like I was getting at.

" Looking at 1-6 only, how much was used?"

lol why are you including 4-6? That's BEFORE THE EU. You should have said 1-3. See why I question your sw lore knowledge?

"Go back and look at what is said to be cannon and you will see the novel about Darth Plagueis was removed. "

First off, Disney can't decide canonicity. Lucas can, but they can't. That's like me buying a Bible and saying that only certain parts are canon. TBC :{
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Disney can only make fan fiction.

And even if they think Darth Plagueis the book is "noncanon", the character and story arc of Plagueis is still in EPISODE 3, and that's still "canon" to them.

"Just because he was mentioned in 3 doesn't mean that novel is going to be kept."

I thought you said it isn't "canon" already? And at first Disney still included it, because they don't now shows how inept they are at storytelling.

"he reason I think this is is because in the novel it states that he wasn't successful in creating life from the midichlorians, which wouldn't match what was said in episode 3."

All Palpatine says is "He was so powerful and so wise that he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. "

Then "He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, and then one night, his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic that he could save others from death, but not himself."

I don't remember him saying or the novel saying what you're saying though.

It shows his attempts and him and Palpatine believe Anakin to be the result of Plagueis's attempts at creating life.

I think it's cool you want to discuss sw, but I feel that you don't have much of the lore under your belt.

You also seem to side with Disney that their fan fic is canon.

I'm sorry dude, so far, you've been wrong. I can discuss this stuff further with you, but you need to understand that I eat, sleep, and breath the real sw canon(pre-Disney). It won't be easy telling me something I don't already know or understand about sw.

I also hope you don't interpret my comments of it as being a jerk or troll. I'm just protective of this franchise. :{
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I was going to get into all your bullshit, but it is clearly you are someone who clearly lacks the intelligence to understand what someone else has to say, let alone be willing to listen. You might "eat, sleep, and breath" the novels (which is not official cannon and I am pretty sure most of it wasn't even before Disney, but that doesn't mean you fully comprehend everything of Star Wars more than everyone else. Here is what I will say though, without getting into everything. When I stated that 1% of the films from Lucas contained the EU, that means the story lines involved. I included 4-6 to incorporate the fact that he kept that consistent in all his films. Character names, ships, planets, objects are all just a small portion of what makes the films. 1% might be low, but it is to imply that not much was used. In fact, the main plots and points for all 6 films were created around the same time. All the details were not drawn out, but that is because as you make 1 film and make changes to it, it makes it easier to adjust the other films. It still remains that not much of the EU was used in any of his films, which means that not much should be used in 7. Once again, how original would it have been to base 7-9 entirely on the EU novels, especially when you have complained about so much of 7 already not being original? If you were to read articles from JJ about 7, you would see that he wanted to make as much of it original as possible, and not just be another adopted film. Honestly I think Lucas should never have sold, which would have meant that 7-9 would most likely never have been made, and I think a lot of people could have lived with that. And yes my definition of stand alone is going to be different, but I also base it off of what the actual definition of stand alone means, which is able to operate independently of. You honestly cannot say you can watch 5 without watching 4 and say that you understand what is taking place, let alone 6 without 5. I would like to see this quote from Lucas stating that all 6 films were designed to be stand alone films, because if you look at any forum they would say the exact same thing I have stated, that 4 and possibly 1 are the only ones that could be stand alone films. A good example of what would make a stand alone film is if they were to make a Winter Soldier film. I am not going to get into the rest of anything else because I just see it as pointless, especially with you.
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Regarding what you wrote, "You honestly cannot say you can watch 5 without watching 4 and say that you understand what is taking place, let alone 6 without 5" - I watched Episode 5 before Episode 4, and I understood and appreciated it just fine. It was the first Star Wars movie I saw, and I loved it.

I also don't think it's necessary for you to insult someone's intelligence when you disagree with them.
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I'm sorry, but has he not been doing the exact same thing to me from his very first response?
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Re: your comment about him doing the same thing to you -

I'm not really seeing that he's been doing that to you from his first response. It looks to me like the first one he wrote to you starts with this:

"Actually, each sw film is meant to function as a stand alone film, at least in Lucas's sw.

TPM is quite watchable.

And I can totally judge Disney's f**k ups by TFA alone. They ruined sw by not incorporating its EU.

And 7 suffers from the obvious UN agenda of promoting "diversity" when star wars did that before it was mandated by the media..." (etc)

Maybe the comments are in a different order now though?

But either way, even if he did do that, it doesn't make it necessary for you to do it. I don't think that kind of thing is generally necessary on either side.
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My theory is that Plageuis was successful and that the entire Skywalker bloodline has been used as pawns by the Sith in order to deceive the jedi in the prophecy being fulfilled. If you were to think about it, episode 6 Yoda stated their wad another Skywalker after Obi Wan said that Luke was their last hope. Well it is obvious that the other Skywalker is not Leia as Obi Wan knew about her. So who is the other? The last episode in Clone Wars series mentions there being another Skywalker as well, even before Padme got pregnant. Could it be that "Skywalker" is only being used to say that there is another chosen one, and that the actual chosen one in the prophecy hasn't emerged yet? Could that be Rey and she isn't related to anyone within Star Wars that we know of?

As far as Snooke, there are some rumors that he could have been someone that was in hiding within the Empire before the end of 6. I don't know for sure and haven't really been able to come up with my own determination of who he is just yet.

Also I never said all movies made from books were worse than the books. I just pointed out that there have been some. But how original would it have been if Disney pulled all of 7 straight from the novels? You keep talking about how unoriginal they are, well it doesn't seem to be real original to me to copy the novels like you keep saying they should have.
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It's Snoke, not Snooke. But seeing as it's Disney's, f**k it.

The other Skywalker that Yoda is talking about is Leia. Disney f**ked that up too.

In the EU she slowly learns to use the force. But Luke never left and is still the balance after Anakin.

"Well it is obvious that the other Skywalker is not Leia as Obi Wan knew about her."

That's probably because you think the Disney fan fiction is canon. It's Leia. Obi is just keeping the secret for Padme and the children's sake. Just saying it aloud to Yoda could have let the Emperor or Vader overhear it through the force.

Again, the other Skywalker in Clone wars is probably still mentioning Leia, but it cold just refer to Luke.

Skywalker is SHMI'S LAST NAME THOUGH. Not a Jedi/Sith religious name or title.

"Could that be Rey and she isn't related to anyone within Star Wars that we know of?"

*sighs But if you watched TFA you'd know that she's more than likely Luke's daughter(even though she should be Han&Leia's). She has his helmet, a doll of a rebel pilot, and is sent to a desert planet. It's pretty obvious and predictable that Disney is going to make her Luke's daughter and their "balance" of the force.

This is what I meant about Disney's agenda. They're trying to take sw away from boys and shift it to girls. Even though it already had plenty of girl characters and reasons for girls to like it. But Disney is that retarded to f**k up the Mona Lisa of sci-fi.

"Also I never said all movies made from books were worse than the books"

Funny thing is neither did I. I didn't say you did dude.

"But how original would it have been if Disney pulled all of 7 straight from the novels?"

How can you still miss the point this blatantly? It would still be original to sw. Just because the film isn't all new stuff doesn't mean it's unoriginal. It's called successful adaption of a source material dude.

"You keep talking about how unoriginal they are, well it doesn't seem to be real original to me to copy the novels like you keep saying they should have."

Because you don't understand canonicity or source material adaptation.

How would it be copying? It's called adaptation when you use a source material for a film dude. Not copying.

I guess the film Jurassic Park is unoriginal though. :{
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(Only made this because you are now really appearing to be a f**king c**t about all of this)

F**k off dude, I made that comment before you replied with 3 comments off of my another comment. I'm sorry I didn't have a "To Be Continued" on there as I was doing it on my phone rather than on a computer.

"It's Leia. Obi is just keeping the secret for Padme and the children's sake. Just saying it aloud to Yoda could have let the Emperor or Vader overhear it through the force." That is BS. Yoda stated out loud that there was someone other than Luke. If that were the case, then the Emperor and Vader would have overheard that. But Vader didn't mention anything about another Skywalker until 6 when he read Luke's mind.

"Again, the other Skywalker in Clone wars is probably still mentioning Leia, but it cold just refer to Luke." How, when Padme wasn't even pregnant at the time? Don't forget, it was mentioned multiple times in both the Clone Wars and in Episode 3 that Anakin may not be the chosen one. If Anakin was created by the Sith as a false prophet for the jedi to find, it would explain why Anakin was easily persuaded to the dark side, since it was the dark side that was used to create him. This darkness would then be passed on through the offspring, as shown in Luke when it took using anger (part of the dark side) to defeat Vader.

FYI, that was not Luke's helmet. In 4 and 5, the emblem is red, in 7 it is yellow. Luke's helmet only had 2 Vs, were in 7 it has 3. The doll is only that of an Alliance pilot, nothing more is known of it. And so what if she was sent to a desert planet. Luke was only sent there to be raised by family. Your story is as flimsy as those who try to claim she is the daughter of Obi Wan.

Now if you take what I had already said about the Skywalker line and about Rey and add in the possibility that Luke was going to the first Jedi temple to find the original prophecy, maybe he discovered the truth about his father there, and might also explain why he wasn't too happy to see Rey, if Rey is indeed the chosen one, as it could mean she is to destroy all the Skywalkers.
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You're being a punk about this dude.

So, I'm not even going to read through your pissy rants. :{
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You don't want to read it because you are afraid to be wrong. You were the one who first got pissy with me because you think I didn't read through all your rank before responding when you didn't even think that the 2nd comment I had was a continuation of the first.
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Like I said, I'm not reading your pissy and childish responses.

And because you're resorting to troll tactics kid, nothing more. :{
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Here I will just do it in meme form so it will be easy for you to see how wrong you are.
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And like I stated, you are only not reading it because you are afraid of being proven wrong.
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"And like I stated, you are only not reading it because you are afraid of being proven wrong."

Trust me kid, no one is afraid of you proving them wrong.

But you don't listen to anythign i've said and you're trolling me.

So, unless you want to be more civil AND CAN ACTUALLY TELL when YOU'RE PROVEN wrong, then STFU. :{
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*sighs But as you've already mentioned a bazillion times, Disney isn't a fan of the true canon and thinks theirs isn't just fan fic.

And just because those two helmets don't match, doesn't mean the TFA one isn't Luke's in their fan fic. He may not lead Rogue Squadron anymore and may have a new squad.

So how have you "proven" anything other than that you're just a butthurt troll, kid?. :{
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You just f**king proven you can't accept it when someone has proven you wrong. That is clearly not f**king Luke's helmet. If you think that they didn't keep to anything that is true canon, then why is the lightsaber that was Luke's in Episode 4 the same as what they said was Luke's in 7? You want to keep trying to deny that you have been proven wrong or shall we keep going at this asshole?
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1 up, 1 reply
I love how you THINK you're making any valid points kid.

Did you notice how everyone in TFA turns Luke's saber on the wrong way? Nah, because they used EVERYTHING CORRECTLY right? lol

You're not listening to my points kid, so STFU with you're trolling already.

If you want to have a CIVIL discussion about sw, let's do that, otherwise, keep being a troll who knows jack shit about sw. :{
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You stopped being civil long before me. So don't be giving me this bullshit about having a civil discussion.

"Did you notice how everyone in TFA turns Luke's saber on the wrong way?" Maybe you should go back and watch the original as it is never turned on and off the same way. Or maybe you can watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ey3g6BmuTI and watch the different times with Luke and see that it never happens the same way each time.

The only one not listening is you because you are incapable of accepting when you are wrong, which makes you the troll, not me.
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"You stopped being civil long before me. So don't be giving me this bullshit about having a civil discussion.

"Did you notice how everyone in TFA turns Luke's saber on the wrong way?" Maybe you should go back and watch the original as it is never turned on and off the same way. Or maybe you can watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ey3g6BmuTI and watch the different times with Luke and see that it never happens the same way each time.

The only one not listening is you because you are incapable of accepting when you are wrong, which makes you the troll, not me."

You are the one that started the name calling kid. You're the troll.

And before I rebuke your false claims, are you even going to listen? :{
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You was the one who started with trying to insult my intelligence with the first comment, and then again after you tried to claim I didn't read all your responses before responding myself, when in fact the comment you made that on was a continuation of my first response. So stop with your f**king bullshit.

My only proof is me saying something? I have provided images and video footage for my claims. You are the only one who is making claims and expecting everyone to take your word for it.

If you want to try to rebuke my claims, go ahead, but you better have f**king proof for your claims and not just spout non-sense without any evidence of any kind to back your false claims.
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(After "reading" past 125,634,459,470 comments)

>NERD FIGHT!<
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3 ups, 1 reply
Diversity? You mean watto bring a stereotype Jew, jar jar being a stereotype Jamaican, or the trade guys being stereotype Asians?
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2 ups, 1 reply
They weren't though, they just happen to SOUND like those races.

But they aren't stereotypes of those races.

Lucas was obviously trying to have aliens SOUND DIVERSE. And they did. They didn't sound racist to anyone who isn't racist themselves.

And what about Finn in Disney's fan fic? A white dude names him, another white dude whips him, and a white woman is in charge of him on both sides(Rey and Phasma).

Disney made Finn an African slave reference, and yet Lucas is somehow the racist. OH, and how did Disney start out? MICKEY MOUSE? Disney "princesses?

You're just as bad as him with your "knowledge" of sw.

If you want to have this conversation, I'm willing, but if you sound like he did, I'm not going to bother. :{
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Dude, they were classic stereotypes in classic stereotypical roles. There is no way to sugar coat that... diversity is one thing characterising is quite another.
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That's racist dude. And it's all on YOUR side of that. That is all YOU dude. :{
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They aren't planning on 12 movies, it's "suppose" to end at 9.
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Rouge One though is coming soon.
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To be fair, I didn't say they were.

I was referencing Lucas' plan at an eventual 7-9 & 10-12.

And how the expanded universe novels in the NJO storyline and the Legacy storyline after work into that perfectly. :{
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