Bernie Sanders

Hope wrong. The USA is a capitalist, free market economy with some social values. Purely socolilist would mean that the government is in control of everything. I see what your getting at though. If that crazy butt sanders gains control maybe. But all his supporters 5 years later will regret what they ve done.

The US is actually much closer to a Democratic Socialist society than a Capitalist economy. In a Democratic Socialist society, capitalism and socialism work hand-in-hand, which is exactly the state of our economy. The government is in control of a ton of stuff, and capitalism is in control of a lot too. There are well over 100 socialist programs in America, most of which people are just ignorant of. If you took the time to see how much of your tax dollars actually go to national parks, monuments, libraries, museums, zoos, police, fire dept, FBI, CIA, food stamps, medicare, military/defense, infrastructure, postal service, student loans and grants, garbage collection, farm subsidies, Congressional health care (Yep. You're paying for it.), polio vaccine, EPA, social security, public education, jail/prison systems, corporate/business subsidies, veteran's healthcare, all government officials payrolls, sewer system, court system, bird flu vaccine, GI bill, Hoover dam, IRS, free lunch program, Pentagon, medicaid, FDA, disability insurance, corporate bailout/welfare, unemployment insurance, PBS, NPR, Amtrak, and so so many more, but I think you get the point, you would understand that America has been slowly becoming more and more a socialist-style economy for the past 70 years. It's been happening slowly right under everyone's noses, and guess what? Majority of those programs were implemented by Republicans, the very people who say that we need less government (Despite the fact that they keep created more government, maybe to pay for their salaries).

If you even took a minute to see how America works, you would understand it's not strictly a "Capitalist" society anymore. It's evolved. Welcome to the Democratic Socialist USA. It's been here for decades.

Nope wrong again. The USA is classified as a capitalist economy. Better described as a "mixed" economy with government and private enterprise playing an important roll. To say it's closer to a "socialist" economy is an opinion, not a fact. Our economy is mostly all capitalism, or society has social values, yes. The need for police, fireman, schooling, etc. I think you confusing economy with society again "Lord disco."

You're kidding, right? Do you even know what democratic socialism is? If not, then you clearly aren't educated well in economics and political science.

But then again, you think Trump is the messiah, so that speaks volumes.

"LordDisco" is really trying to aggravate you huh? Lol, typical delusional liberal...

What part of what I said it "liberal"? I'm curious, because everything I've been posting has been factual. Just look up how many socialist programs are in America, and come back to me once you realize what your tax dollars are paying for.

Typical liberal argument. Yes taxes pay for social services...now you want more? Obamacare is a disaster and Sanders just furthers that. The government should have less control, not more.

Do you not realize that government has control of nearly 200 different social programs? Many of which were established by Republicans in the past 30 years. Wow! That Sanders and Obama really want to make the US a more socialist country. Oh, wait. Republicans have been doing it for years, under your nose, and then telling you they want less government (And then end up spending more money).

And you say "typical liberal argument", and yet, you didn't even answer what part of what I said was liberal before. So my question asking you what part of what I said is liberal is a "typical liberal argument"?

If anybody is being typical, it's you. "Obamacare is a disaster", "Sanders just furthers that", "The government should have less control". You sound like sound bites from Fox News.

*yawn* Do you actually believe the nonsense you're spewing?

You haven't actually given me any facts, and continue to use words like "nonsense", "liberal argument", and "delusional", which only furthers the idea that you are just acting like Trump himself.

How about you go gaslight elsewhere, because your crappy means of manipulation through insult is pathetic.

Seriously. Nearly TWO-HUNDRED different social programs. That's not nonsense. That's a fact. Reality. The US. Look it up and stop being ignorant.

they probably 4th grader reader :D no matters how much you explain to this people they seem dont understand what you are explaining. all they can read the main points but not the fact. if i said their stupid probably they gunna attack my meme ass.. but well, im enjoyin reading it lol :D go on keep debating :D

Where are your facts? Why don't you explain just how all of the "200 social programs" demonstrate that we're a socialist nation already as you seem to think. These "200 social programs" you speak of don't have any control over our lives genius. Paying taxes to support police, build roads, schools etc, doesn't have anything to do with the level of control the dems are trying to implement. How old are you? I know LOTS of people who have been affected by obamacare in a negative way, including myself. The premiums have skyrocketed, while the level of care has gone down. We were told we could keep our primary physician...a lie. The government should'nt control your healthcare. Just think about it..they force you to get obamacare, raise your premiums, and tell you who your doctor can be...this isn't acceptable. People aren't getting the medical help they once could because of the high premiums. What if the premiums keep going up to the point where most people can't afford it and someone with a serious condition dies because of it? Sounds like population control to me.

Let's get into how the dems want to take away our second amendment right to bear arms. They've already implemented programs where you can turn in your guns for groceries. Now obama wants to take guns away from people with mental disorders, some of which are minor like anxiety. The people who commit mass murders have EXTREME psyscotic mental disorders, not anxiety or depression. They've already started taking guns away from anyone with a "mental illness" in California. The right to bear arms wasn't just put in the constitution for protection from foreign invaders, it's other purpose was to protect ourselves from our own government if it were to ever become too powerful. They want to take our guns so that they can control us. Are you OK with this.

Now they want to implement even more socialist programs. Even though it's just a couple, what's next? Two more here, two more there for a few years and then bam, socialist society. Next step communisim. How about you actually research Trump instead of getting all your opinions from liberal media? Trump is anti-establishment. He wants to limit government control because he's a true patriot. Ever heard him insult bush for the iraq war? I don't support what bush did, Trump is trying to fix the mess not only that obama left, but bush as well. Do some research on Trump "lorddisco" and we'll continue.

HAHAHAHAHA! Is your memory that bad? Trump absolutely supported Bush when we went into Iraq. He only recently recanted those statements, and insists that he was always against the Iraq War, which is a blatant lie (As are the mountain of lies he says on a continual basis).

And even though this conversation started about Sanders, you've turned it into a "dems want to" debate. 1) Sanders is not a Democrat, and 2) Are you so blind to facts that you already forgot that Republicans have implemented more social programs in the past 30 years than Democrats? Also, Sanders has said numerous times that banning guns is a terrible idea, and he thinks that production and distribution of guns is great for our country, is protected by the constitution, and provides many jobs. But tell me again how he's trying to take them away.

And... oh, who am I kidding? Your long diatribe is full of fluff and holes with so many Fox News fighting points that it's not worth talking to you anymore. Lies like "These '200 social programs' you speak of don't have any control over our lives" are insane to me. You defend Trump as someone who wants to limit government, but he has constantly talked about beefing up our military and going to war with ISIS. Do you not realize that the military is GOVERNMENT? Do you not know how much government already spends on our military, and Trump wants to spend more? Trump supported Hillary for years, is great friends with Bill Clinton, said in 2004 and 2008 that Democrats are better than Republicans and Hillary would make a great president, and he had a private meeting with Bill Clinton last year just days before Trump announced his candidacy.

Can you not see reality through your rose tinted glasses? If not, I can't talk to you. It's like talking to a robot.

Would you consider yourself...a liberal "lorddisco"?

I do not, actually. I'm a registered Republican from the state of South Carolina. I've voted every single opportunity I have had since 2001, but that didn't mean I always voted Republican. I vote for who I believe is best for the betterment of America, and that's it. In my 15 years of voting, I've voted for Republicans, Democrats, Green Party members, Libertarians, and even a few unaffiliated politicians.

What you, and what many ignorant people, like to call "liberal" is just as one-sided and stupid as calling someone a "conservative". Nobody is 100% of either of those, and nobody aligns 100% with Republicans or Democrats. If they do, they are either the sheepest of the sheep or they are paid to tell you that.

For you to even ask me if I consider myself "liberal" because I don't like Trump is just obvious one-siding pandering. Both sides lie, cheat, and steal, so to even so vehemently defend a guy that is more infamous for lying, cheating, and stealing than both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is just sickening.

Trump doesn't care about you at all. He is the very definition of a narcissistic, and he's a very dangerous individual to lead a country. It doesn't take a whole lot of historical research to see people like him do much worse for their country then improve.

Trump never supported bush or the iraq war lol. You are the one is ignorant. You are so delusional. You sound like obama's press secretary. What does limiting government control over everyday americans have to do with fighting isis? You need to get a grip on reality bud.

Did you not listen to Trump's own words? I didn't say it, and if you still don't believe it, it is not I that is delusional. I'm not the one vehemently defending the credibility of an insane narcissist. And I LOVE that both you and Shady try to debunk the very first one (Which has audio of him saying "Yeah, I guess" he supports invading Iraq), while not mentioning anything about the other stuff I provided evidence for.

I guess for somebody, ignorant is bliss. But for you guys, ignorance is Trump.

But by all means keep utilizing strawman tactis, I'm sure it'll pay off eventually "LordDisco". Once again, I will ask you to actually RESEARCH Trump.

Ugh. Fine. Here are the links to all the FACTS I already gave you. Strawman. You just hate the truth.
Trump supported the Iraq War:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/in-2002-donald-trump-said-he-supported-invading-iraq-on-the#.haGXw8E7l

How much do we spend on the military in the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Trump wants to build up the military so "nobody messes with us":
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-1st-order-business-prez-building-military-article-1.2312826

Trump is friends with the Clintons (Photos don't lie):
http://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/uploads/2016/01/trump-hillary-bill-clinton-today-150807-tease_460ba7dfbcabbf6b9cd94249a410f990.jpg

Trump funded Hillary for years:
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/articles/2016-01-14/donald-trump-donated-to-democrats-until-2008

Trump said Hillary would make a great president:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-in-2008-hillary-clinton-would-make-a-great-president/

Trump tried to contact Bill many times and talked with Bill Clinton before announcing candidacy:
http://time.com/3986747/donald-trump-bill-clinton-phone-call/

Now, tell me what lies I'm saying?

Lol trump never supported the iraq war you friggen delusional asshole. Your "facts" are so misinterpreted that continuing a conversation, further proves your sociopathic tendecies

Mis... interpreted... Umm... yeah. So audio and video of him saying things means he didn't say them, huh? Wow. You are on a different level of delusional.

Not comprehending the first amendment thing though.

These protesters have just as much of a right to say what they want as Trump and his supporters can say what they're saying. Do I agree with the approach of either? Not at all, but I support both of their first amendment rights. However, I just think Trump's obvious racist, sexist, and aggressive tone is communicating even more poorly than the protesters.

Hence the 1st amendment goes both ways.

"Trump's obvious racist, sexist, and agressive tone", can you prove any of your accusations? This is an obvious strawman argument bud. Your ignorance clouds your judgement I'm afraid. Deporting illegals or whatever other point you try to respond with ISN'T racism.

These protesters are attacking innocent Trump supporters and anyone in general at these rallies with racist, hateful speech just trying to agitate them. Some protesters are even resorting to violence. Watch this video of an unbiased rally attendee.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/21/police-officer-gained-a-lot-of-respect-for-donald-trump-after-attending-rally-video/

You want examples?! Are you serious? Well, if you are finally going to listen to reality and stop being so blinded by Trump's golden hair, here you go:

Racist stuff:
1) The Justice Department sued Trump TWICE for not renting to black people. He tried to sue the Justice Department for wrongful accusation and defamation, but the JD didn't back down, Trump settled out of court, and made his apartments available black people after the fact.
2) He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him. I'll admit that this example might just be Trump manipulating the system by controlling those with racist tendencies, but despite, it looks REALLY bad, especially when he pretended he didn't know who David Duke was.
3) For the longest time, he berated Barack Obama and constantly campaigned and lied about his birth place. You can either take this that he supported Hillary so much that he was trying to defame Obama, OR he just really didn't want a black person in office. Since he supported Clinton in 2008, it can go either way. Again, still looks bad.
4) Whenever he refers to minority groups, he almost always uses "the" when talking about them. In example; the Muslims, the Hispanics, the blacks, etc. Think about how many times you hear someone say "the whites".
5) He condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester in November at a rally in Alabama. The person was absolutely pummeled by his supporters, and the next day, Trump said the protester should have been roughed up.
6) He called two brothers in Boston who brutally beat up a homeless Latino man as "passionate". Trump did not even bother distancing himself from these two, who genuinely committed assault with an intent to kill (And obviously a hate crime).
7) He stereotypes Jews ALL THE TIME. He calls them great bankers, money-huggers, good negotiators, and numerous other old stereotypes. You know, instead of calling them "people".

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Sexist stuff:
1) He said to never buy your wife negotiable assets, and that is would be a "terrible mistake".
2) Trump wrote: “Beauty and elegance, whether in a woman, a building, or a work of art, is not just superficial or something pretty to see.”
3) He tweeted, "26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?"
4) About the Apprentice, he said, "It’s certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on ‘The Apprentice’ were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal.”
5) He said in an interview for Esquire, “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
6) He said to a female reporter, “Like you wouldn’t have your job if you weren’t beautiful.”
7) He called a woman named Elisabeth Beck "disgusting" for pumping breast milk for her infant daughter. Trump's attorneys didn't deny this.
8) Ugh. He said, “Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression ‘the weaker sex’ was either very naive or had to be kidding. I have seen women manipulate men with just a twitch of their eye — or perhaps another body part.”
9) He said Hillary would be a bad president because of Bill's actions (Despite supporting her in 2008 saying she would make a great president).
10) He said, “Angelina Jolie’s been with so many guys she makes me look like a baby... And, I just don’t even find her attractive.”
11) He tweeted about Bette Midler (Seriously? Ugh), "While @BetteMidler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct."
12) He said about his favorite part in a movie, "“My favorite part [of ‘Pulp Fiction’] is when Sam has his gun out in the diner and he tells the guy to tell his girlfriend to shut up. Tell that bitch to be cool. Say: ‘Bitch be cool.’ I love those lines.”

You know what. You get the point. If you don't, I can't help you any more. You can easily find all this stuff yourself. It's not rocket science. Just simply look up, "Things Trump has said about women". It's simply ridiculous.

Did you even watch the video I linked? And btw it's pretty obvious you're upvoting your own comments with an alt

Yes, I watched your link. I respect the Mr Tatum's testimony, but he is only one man and one testimony. The amount of people Trump has personally offended and attacked is insanely long to ignore, and the fact that you didn't even acknowledge all of the examples I gave you shows that you are just trying to find any reason to like Trump and ignore all reasons to not like him.

And why in the world would I upvote my own comments? hahaha. Could I not say the same about your comments, since they all have either one or two votes? Making such an accusation is insanely stupid, and it only furthers your misguided attacks.

True liberal. Political correctness first. Rights and liberties last. Pathetic.

Ugh. Can you respond any other way besides "liberal", "delusional", "pathetic", or any other stupid and condescending way? You have CLEARLY ignored my posts in completion. You asked me, "can you prove any of your accusations?", I did, and you didn't even acknowledge all of the examples I gave you. I can even link you to every single example, but I know you won't look at them, because obviously your thinking is so one-sided that if it doesn't align with you, it is clearly "liberal" and/or "delusional".

You are insanely brain-washed and don't even realize it. If only you knew how to think for yourself, this conversation would be more civilized and educating. Instead, you choose the low road of insulting, demoralizing, and completely ignoring the context of the conversation to try and run away from what you initially engaged in.

Are you going to continue to debate like this? Because you are only making yourself out to be more and more of a Trump sheep.

Think like "lord disco" or he will constantly badger you for the rest of your life.

There's no use arguing with you. Your probably funded by George Soros. Gettin that 16 bucks an hour to try your damnedest to slow trumps mass appeal. We re crossing party lines to support this great man. We believe in his message. I don't need to argue with you. My mind is made up.

I just enjoy getting you to write short novels, wasting your time. If you put this much work into stopping hillary, then we d be getting somewhere.

Did I ever once say "think like me"? This is once again your BS rhetoric. You asked me a question, I answered it heavily, you ignored it and proceeded to insult me. You keep telling me how "delusional" I am, I provide facts, then you tell me how "true liberal" I am. I call you out on your BS arguing methods, and then you proceed to think I want you to think like me.

You are the worst kind of debater. Actually, you aren't debating at all. You've basically been doing Peewee Herman arguments the whole time (I know you are, but what am I). If this is your whole argument, I'm done. You only further proved how idiotic Trump supporters truly are.

Yeah trump is a real threat to your dead best ways. Lol you call someone a racist and your liberal logic tells you you won the debate. If you watched the videos the crowd chants "we stoped trump." Proving that their agenda was not to exercise their first amendment right, but to silence someone elses. But i guess it doesn't matter as trump won Illinois without a rally and Hillary had all but clinched her nomination. If your doubtingv trump is your next president you need to create another screenname, "Lord disco."

I'm not doubting Trump can win, as I'm also not doubting Hillary can win (ugh). This election is truly going to be the stupidest in American history, and because of insane policy desires and unnecessary arguing points, Trump and Hillary are just going to be screaming insults at each other for months with zero resolve. As has been the Republican "debates", debates between Trump and Hillary are going to be ridiculously stupid and will talk so little about policy and economic problems. This is the state of our political spectrum.

People like Kasich and Sanders, both of whom are classy individuals that respect their peers and have stellar records in office, get the shaft, because they aren't as spectacular or entertaining as buffoons like Trump and Hillary. If the election had actually been Kasich VS Bernie, I would have been so excited, because it would have been the first time in my life where I wouldn't mind either candidate winning. With Trump VS Hillary, you better believe I don't care and won't be voting for either, because those two are two peas in a pod and have been close friends for decades.

Just continue to ignore the fact that Trump funded Hillary up until he announced his candidacy in this election. He said in 2008 that she would make a great president. He met with Bill Clinton last year TWO days before announcing his candidacy. The amount of money he has given to the Clintons over the years is frightening, and the fact that you don't find any of that fishy worries me.

Trump cares only about himself, making more money, and pleasing those who benefit him. The Clintons are part of that group, and don't you forget it.

Simply delusional " Lord disco "

Please tell me which fact I gave you was "delusional".

Simply delusional "Lord disco"