if i'm being honest though degen is one of the characters i just actually don't like
the thought of him residing in the same existence as Lian and the others makes multiple negative emotions flow into sectors of my internals that i don't want them to flow into
that's actually pretty cool of him, but i never saw him as the type to go for lian or his mother
but what discomforts me is the torture he puts mr through
this is a bit of a strange analogy but it's like the "squidward torture" episodes of modern spongebob
he doesn't deserve this why must he be miserable